By a Nose

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  1. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Take the nose.
    An extension of the face, I suppose
    To breath the perfumed air of the rose
    Or snort indignantly as one chose.
    It’s perched in noble profile
    Making a point all the while –
    For what would we do without the nose,
    Who knows?

    I recently picked up an Athenian tetradrachm from VCoins that I am 99% sure is an imitation.

    One give-a-way is the nose, resting on Athena's face as a promontory, a nearly geological feature of the face that would make Jimmy Durante green with envy.

    Athens Imitation Tetradrachm Big Nose, VCoins purchase 16.0 grams.jpg
    So I started thinking about how that most important aspect of one's profile is portrayed over the ages.

    Nerva was clearly proud of his proboscis, not only making it a prominent part of his profile, but supplementing it with a look of imperious authority.

    Nerva Tetradrachm Antioch.1.jpg Nerva Tetradrachm Antioch.2.jpg

    Which brings up the question - what other examples of the proboscis, both noble and ignoble, in all of its glory and ugliness are out there? Quite a few I would imagine.
     
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  3. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I don't have any examples besides Nerva to post personally, but I think if you use one of the search engines like the cng archives to find portraits of Galba and even Tiberius, you'll find some impressively massive probosces (probosci?). Although I believe there's no question that Nerva takes the cake. (And nobody ever says anything about the fact that his ear is even bigger. Almost worthy of an elephant!)

    Nerva Obverse jpg.jpg
     
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  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    My favorite proboscis by far...the monkey variety. His face would be right at home on a Roman coin:
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    Here's my Nerva with quite the schnoz:
    Nerva Denarius.jpg
     
  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I have a pinnochio example of Gallus, which I think is either the product of some die wear or an odd piece of work by the celator:

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  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Iberians liked to promote their proboscis...

    The Nose Knows

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    Iberia Castulo Late 2nd C BC AE As 25mm Bust Nose Hand Sphinx


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    Iberia - Castulo AE14 Quarter Unit Bust - BOAR w-star 2nd C BCE
     
  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    And my Etrurians have prominent probosci, but this was stands out a bit...

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    Etruria, Populonia
    2-½ asses , AR 0.85 g (similar to Rome’s original AR Sestertius)
    3rd century BCE
    Obv: Radiate female head r.; behind, CII.
    Rev: Blank.
    Ref: EC 104 (misdescribed, Female head with an Attic helmet). Historia Numorum Italy 179.
    NAC Comment: Of the highest rarity, apparently only the second specimen known. Dark patina and about very fine.
    Ex: From the collection of E.E. Clain-Stefanelli
     
  8. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    That reminded me of one of my uncleaned coins from when I first started!
    I've never been able to identify it properly. But he definitely has quite the honker on him. Maybe a bull on the reverse?
    Bull Reverse 5.82g approx 25mm.jpg
     
  9. Jims Coins

    Jims Coins Well-Known Member

    CA #211. CNG 10-6-95 $99.00 - Silver coin (AR Denarius) minted at Rome during the reign of NERVA in 97 A.D. Obv. IMP.NERVA.CAES.AVG.TR.P.COS.III.P.P.: laur, hd. r. Rev. FORTVNA.AVGVST.: Fortuna stg. l., holding rudder and cornucopia. RCS #953. RSCII #66 pg. 79. RICII #16 pg. 224. DVM #8. RCVSII #3025.

    Nice Roman nose CA-211 OBV.jpg CA-211 REV.jpg
     
  10. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    Domitian has an underrated schnozz.

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    Lucius Verus with a nice beak.
    A126C838-7595-4DD5-BB81-149B1CFCC387.jpeg

    Nerva is still the best amongst the Romans.

    492F70C5-ABB4-4445-9A68-0284EEDA1A18.jpeg

    But this guy has by far the number one nose in my collection.
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  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Domitian 5.jpg
    DOMITIAN
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: CAESAR AVG F DOMITIANVS, laureate head right
    REVERSE: COS IIII, The Pegasus standing right with raising left foreleg
    Struck at Rome, 76AD
    3.1g, 20mm
    RIC 921
     
  12. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    One more:

    The pugilist - Celts in Eastern Europe AR Tetradrachm. ex Hermann Lanz Collection, Roma purchase.jpg Celts in Eastern Europe AR Tetradrachm. Reiterstumpf Type, ex Hermann Lanz collection, 12.16 grams. Purchased in 2019.
     
  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    This is a great coin... very expressive, and very interesting. Really like the details in the horse.
     
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  14. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    My largest nose on one of my smallest coins.
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    AE drachm, Danubian Kelts, "Kugelwange" type. 200-100 BC. Obv: Very big-nosed imitation of Phillip II (probably). Rev: not much left.

    To illustrate how big this nose actually is:
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  15. Carl Wilmont

    Carl Wilmont Well-Known Member

    On the coins below, Tiberius goes from a rather "normal" nose to more of a "beak" due to the different styles of the engravers.

    Tiberius Denarius 1.jpg

    Tiberius Denarius gVF.jpg
     
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  16. Limes

    Limes Well-Known Member

    The more hook-looking the nose, the more similar one looks to the awesome Roman legionary eagle.
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    I like this portrait because the forehead is basically missing and the chin sticks out like the rock of Gibraltar.
    Marcus Antonius bare head.png
     
  17. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    This little lady had a bit of a honker....Ran in the family...
    luc and marc.jpg
     
  18. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Good grief! Look at the size of Gordian III's nose on this one!

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    Gordian III, with Tranquillina
    Roman provincial Ӕ Tetrassarion; 12.97 g, 26.7 mm, 7:00
    Thrace, Anchialus, AD 238-244
    Obv: AVT K M ANT ΓOPΔIANOC AVΓ CЄB/ TPANKVΛ/ΛEINA, laureate and draped bust of Gordian right, facing diademed and draped bust of Tranquillina left
    Rev: OVΛΠIANWN AΓXIAΛEWN, Athena standing facing, head right, holding inverted spear and resting on shield
    Refs: Varbanov 748; BMC --; Moushmov --
     
  19. Gary R. Wilson

    Gary R. Wilson ODERINT, DUM METUANT — CALIGULA

    Here's a Tiberius fouree Tribute Penny. This could possibly be an accurate portrait, what with the engraver not to be found and executed by the emperor, with his big broken(?) nose.





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    Fourree
    Ruler: Tiberius (Augustus)
    Coin: Bronze/Silver Fourree Denarius Fourree
    TI CAESAR DIVI AVG F AVGVSTVS - Laureate head right
    PONTIF MAXIM - Livia, as Pax, holding branch and sceptre, seated right; plain legs to chair with double line below.
    Mint: Lugdunum (Lyon) mint (18-35AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 2.80g / 19mm / 360
    Rarity: Common
    References:
    RIC 1 30 (c), Group 4 (official)
    BMCRE I 48 (official)
    RSC II 16a (official)
    SRCV I 1763 (official)
    Giard Lyon, Group 4, 150
    Acquisition/Sale: numismatellusstabilit Ebay $0.00 12/17
    Notes: Jun 13, 18 - The Gary R. Wilson Collection
     
  20. oldfinecollector

    oldfinecollector Well-Known Member

    Nerva nose is quite impressive as this denarius from my collection

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    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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