Heartbreaker

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Suarez, Feb 19, 2020.

  1. arnoldoe

    arnoldoe Well-Known Member

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    well the coin was already broken + repaired (sold as BROKEN AND RE-ATTACHED) , but now in a few more pieces.
     
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  3. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Hey @Suarez

    Sorry to hear about your coin.

    I'm not sure where this is at, and I'm obviously late to the party, but perhaps you'd consider donating this to that Aussie collector who recently did a 'pilgrimage' to Byzantium. You know, the guy who is clearly passionate about Byzantine history, and posted all about his travels, and even went to the last Byzantium state :D

    I'm sure he'd be willing to post all about his repair work as well.

    Cheers

    AC
     
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  4. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    Sure - I don't know who he is though
     
  5. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    Sorry to hear about your coin. I have not had that kind of trouble. I did lose one. This was my first steelyard weight with a face. It was small and in a bubble wrap package that stayed on the roof of our car long enough to get lost when it did fly off.
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    I like to let folks hold ancient coins. It would be hard to do much harm to your coin if you put it in a zip lock baggie.
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  6. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Sorry to see your coin arrive in pieces/ I have never seen that ever happen. I used to collect rare butterflies/ moths. It happened a lot, esp. if customs opened box. But these are very fragile to begin with. Most of the time when I receive (non slabbed) coins, they are safe inside that cardboard packing strip. Kunker even sends them with that, plus bubblewrap. Someone in PO/ customs must have intentionally damaged the coin, there is no way that was accidental.
    John
    PS: I have a coin on the way from Nomos/ cross my fingers:(
     
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  7. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    It came in a 6x9 plain paper envelope, John. I'll cross my fingers for you too!

    Rasiel
     
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  8. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I disagree. Look at just the other examples in this thread of coins that arrived in pieces despite being inside one of those cardboard sleeves. It happens.
     
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  9. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    One auction house has a very clever way of sending coins to me. They place padded envelope inside an auction catalogue. This serves 3 purposes.
    a/ no customs hassles
    b/ no threat of theft
    c/ very well protected from postal shock/ vandalism;)
     
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  10. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

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  11. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    Beautiful trip and pics. You're willing to repair the coin and post photos of it afterwards?

    Rasiel
     
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  12. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Yes, absolutely. More than happy to document the process and post it.

    P.S. - just to manage expectations, I'm not sure at this stage whether I'd seek to repair it myself, or get it professionally done. Whatever is best for the coin in the context of what is available locally. There have been several ideas posted in this thread already. In any event, I'd post about it here on the forums.
     
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  13. dougsmit

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    panzerman said:
    Someone in PO/ customs must have intentionally damaged the coin, there is no way that was accidental.
    I take the middle road on this. 'Accident' is not the word police use when a reckless driver kills someone. Issues known to be fragile, thin coins, cracked coins need to be packed differently from low grade sestertii. One of my recent tiny AR purchases was thin and cracked but came in a hard shell dime size plastic holder with a bit of plastic inside to keep it from rattling around. People worry about authenticity of underweight silver but they should be equally afraid that the interior of the coin is a spongy and fragile mess just waiting for a good drop to explode. I once bought a Byzantine bronze with razor sharp edges that 'sawed' its way out of the flip but was still in the cardboard mailer. That dealer might need to study how chainsaws are packaged (not in a plastic bag). Yes. It happens but when need to use some common sense in handling and packaging lest we be charged with 'involuntary coinicide'.
     
  14. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I agree. I don't believe for a moment that there was any malicious intent by either the sender or someone in Customs/the PO, but that kind of careless packaging, especially for an obviously fragile coin, amounts to gross negligence by someone who should have known better. Which is exactly why I was so annoyed when my Julia Soaemias denarius arrived in pieces after being taped(!) directly -- without even a flip -- to the inside of a thin cardboard sleeve which was placed in an unpadded envelope, and then sent off from Bulgaria to the USA. Unconscionable under any circumstances, but even more so for a coin that the sender knew weighed only 1.9 grams. That was more than two years ago, and it still bothers me when I think about it, even though I got a refund!
     
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  15. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    Aussie Collector, please email me your address. I'll get it out tomorrow. Would love to see this coin repaired and in a happy home.

    [Snip - have edited out your email address]
     
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  16. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    I have just sent you an email.

    Thank you, I look forward to restoring this coin.

    P.S. - I've snipped out your email address as per the forum the rules
     
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  17. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Good advice. Sorry for the damage to your coin.
     
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  18. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Though sometimes they can go a bit overboard. This picture does not show all the bubble wrap that came with it The two coins that warranted all this are a Roman sestertius and a Sidon double shekel IMG_5211.JPG
     
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  19. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Hi all, my apologies for the delay in posting an update here. I have been thinking about this coin and thread on and off for weeks now. My work has been incredibly busy with events that are affecting us all in some, way, shape of form. I hope you're all well and staying safe.

    Anyway, I have some good news, some bad news, and some good news. A bit of a proverbial sandwich really.

    The good news is, that the coin has arrived. Here it is sitting next to its soon to be friends.

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    The bad news is that not all of the coin made it. Somehow, somewhere, some pieces were lost in the journey from one side of the world to the other. We both spent many hours searching, but to no avail. It's really heartbreaking.

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    The good news is that if you're going to lose some pieces on a coin, I am a solid choice to send it to. Unlike many, I'm not too fussed about scratches, graffiti, wear and tear, and yes - even missing pieces on a coin. What the coin represents in terms of a period in history is so much more important to me than whether it's in perfect condition. And, let's face it, the important pieces of the coin are here anyway.

    So, this weekend, I will fuse the coin back together with superglue. I am using superglue because it can be easily reversed, and if a future custodian of this lovely piece of history has a better idea on how to restore it, they can.

    That's all for now, and I'll post an update soon.

    Cheers

    AC
     
  20. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Sorry about your trouble.. but I am glad this wonderful coin ended up with the right collector!
     
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  21. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    I had more or less forgotten about this and I'm now so glad to see you intend to repair it and are obviously cherishing the poor thing. Good luck and post again!

    Rasiel
     
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