1878 one Dollar coin

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Michelle Barone, Mar 31, 2020.

  1. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Thanks, John! For the life of me, I can't see any underlying tail feathers either, but I was confused about the apparent weakness of the strike. I once bought an entire PCGS box of 1888-O Morgans ranging from MS63-MS65 and most of them had an extremely weak reverse strike of the talons, tailfeathers and arrows. They didn't look anything like this. Maybe that is why I'm confused about the condition.

    I don't know who gave him the idea that die cracks on Morgans are indicative of a counterfeit coin, but this couldn't be any farther from the truth. It takes 130-150 tons of pressure to strike these cartwheels, and die cracks are very common.
    ~ Chris
     
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  3. Ana Silverbell

    Ana Silverbell Well-Known Member

    You are correct. There are two varieties: weak 7/8 and strong 7/8. This coin is neither but it is a nice example.
     
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  4. SamuelFred1

    SamuelFred1 I Guess I'm Kind Of a Decent Member at This Point?

    FINAL VERDICT: This is an 1878 7 tail feathers 2nd reverse in about XF45-AU53 with a value of around $60.
     
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  5. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I did not see the underlying tailfeathers either. Why I called it 7 tf rev of 78. Due to the flatter breast and the ends of the arrows. I’m no vam expert though just a dealer/collector with a good general knowledge of coins
     
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  6. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    I researched the reverses as a refresher and agree...AU50, Rev.of ‘78...worth $60-70...imo...I defer to the VAM experts...Spark
     
  7. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    So, this is a fake real coin XF40-AU worth $20-$60. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
     
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  8. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Yeah, now that I can look at a large picture, it's definitely VAM 80. 7TF, B1 (long nock) reverse. This one also can come with weakness on the reverse, but VAM 42 always does, which is why I thought of it first.
     
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  9. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Hey sis. Thanks for showing your coin. You made this thread interesting. What are you going to do with it. If i may ask
     
  10. Michelle Barone

    Michelle Barone New Member

    I was going to sell it. I’m sure someone that out there would appreciate it more if they are a collector. I have so many more that came in this estate that i don’t know what to do with.
     
  11. Michelle Barone

    Michelle Barone New Member

    What about 1979- P Susan b Anthony. Worth anything?
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  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Just a dollar, I think.
     
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  13. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    post a few and lets see if you hit the jackpot
     
  14. Michelle Barone

    Michelle Barone New Member

    Ok. Here is another 1878 Morgan silver dollar. Is it the same value? 03DAE6EE-4919-468B-BCBB-6FD7B26F606A.jpeg 03DAE6EE-4919-468B-BCBB-6FD7B26F606A.jpeg 4C22F8A7-6559-40C4-B05A-872947C82490.jpeg 03DAE6EE-4919-468B-BCBB-6FD7B26F606A.jpeg
     
  15. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    OK, that one does look like a 7/8 TF, VAM 42. Worth a little more than the other one.
     
  16. Michelle Barone

    Michelle Barone New Member

    Really? How much more?
     
  17. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    First of all, condition is the biggest thing. Your coin looks to be AU, but with toning that is borderline market acceptable. An 1878 7TF in this grade is about a $60 coin, where a 7/8 TF will be about $90. The toning is a big variable, though. Someone may really like it and pay a lot more for it, while it might actually turn off other buyers.
     
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  18. Michelle Barone

    Michelle Barone New Member

    So helpful! I’m having a lot of fun doing this but i apologize for my lack of knowledge
     
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  19. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    We all dove into this hobby lacking knowledge. Jump on in. The water is warm and you will spend the rest of your life learning about coins. They are quite addictive.
     
  20. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    By asking questions here you're doing a lot more due diligence than most people who are just starting out. We all started out in the same boat, and, yes, it is a lot of fun.
     
  21. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    A word of caution. Several have commented about the toning, either attractive or a turn-off for different buyers. They are correct. However, don't try to "fix" it by any method of cleaning or polishing. This will destroy most of the value of the coin.
     
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