ISRAEL coins - knowledge & assistance

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by pilot, Feb 7, 2005.

  1. pilot

    pilot Member

    Hi everybody,

    Thanks for your warm welcoming me to your forum.

    I am an Israeli grandfather collecting from childhood Israel coins by year, world coins by type and world coins, medals & tokens with ships, anchors & boats.

    If you need any assistance with Israeli coins, Hebrew dating, variaties etc. - I will be glad to assist.

    have a nice day !
    Capt. Levi
     
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  3. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Capt. Levi,
    Do you have any knowledge about ancient Judean
    coins,plus the coins issued by the Jews during their
    revolts against the Romans?

    Aidan.
     
  4. pilot

    pilot Member

    Not an expert at all

    Hi
    I do know a little - but I am not an expert.
    Can help more with modern coins (1927-today)
    best regards

     
  5. thomasv

    thomasv New Member

    Capt. Levi,

    Do you know anything about the golden 1 NIS "Jacob and Rachel" with the missing "a" in the arab text "Israel"?
    When was it released and withdrawn and do you know anything about the amount of them in circulation?
    I expect one to get in few days and I like to know something more about it.

    I'am collecting coins and some banknotes from Palestine and Israel too, from 1927 to 1980 sofar (only trade-coins by year with varaities) and also the trade coins from The Netherlands from WWII until now. But as you see, sometimes I do'nt stay on the track.
    Thanks in advance,

    Tom Vreeken, The Netherlands.
     
  6. thomasv

    thomasv New Member

    Hello Captain Levi,

    I got (allmost all) the answers from Pinchas BarZeev, (isracoins.com). He is on this forum too.

    Regards, Tom Vreeken.
     
  7. JUANITA

    JUANITA New Member

    Modern Hebraic?

    Hello

    This is my first post!

    I have been trying to research a medal/coin that has been passed down through the generations, so to speak! So far, all I have been told is that the letters are modern Hebraic.

    I believe it will give me some insight into the family history of staunch Catholics, Prodestants and those of the Jewish faith. Originally, I thought it may belong to my great-great uncle but have just recently come across some information on a Lieutenant-Colonel John Henry Patterson of the The Zion Muleteers of Gallipoli who may or may not have been my great-grandfather. This in itself opens up another possibilty.

    So far, I have contacted a Bill Rosenblum at www.rosenblumcoins.com who was kind enough to reply and said he had never seen one but would try to research it. As yet, I haven't heard anything more.

    Last week, I sent a photo to Dr. Jonathan Sacks at http://www.chiefrabbi.org in the hopes he may be of some help.

    The coin seems to be of religious significance but I do not know what the Hebraic letters are.

    If you or anyone may be able to help, I would be most appreciative.

    Many thanks and God Bless
    Juanita
     

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  8. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Welcome to the forum Juanita.

    While waiting for one of our Israeli members to respond, I'll just comment that if my religious school studies of many years ago didn't fail me, the characters are "Shin", "Hey", "Gimmel", "Nun", which stands for a phrase that translates as "A great miracle happened there." Traditionally the letters are placed on the sides of a square top, known as a "dreidel", which is used in a children's gambling game for nuts during the Chanukah holdiay season. The phrase, of course, refers to the story that one day's supply of consecrated oil burned in the Temple's everlasting light for the eight days it took to get more oil after recovery of the Temple from its pagan despoilers.
     
  9. JUANITA

    JUANITA New Member

    Hello Roy

    Thank you so much............it is a beginning!

    Now we will wait to see if the others can add to it.

    God Bless

    Juanita
     
  10. Ali Al-Hazen

    Ali Al-Hazen New Member

    Should I ever be knowlegeable to collect such coins, I would most definitely welcome anything you could teach to me.
     
  11. Pinchas BarZeev

    Pinchas BarZeev New Member

    Not Israeli, maybe old Jewish or non-Jewish?

    The characters in the same Hebrew order are:
    TT
    BM
    Hence, what is written, is T>T>M>B.
    But the B (Bet) is written rather strangely, and may even be an overgrown N (Nun). And the top left T (Tav) doesn't look 100% the same as its neighbour on the right. The left one has a dent in it, making it look almost like an inverted H (Heh).
    Please be aware that not only Jews used Hebrew in tokens or medals, also non-Jews. Members of the American Israel Numismatic Association (AINA) will have noticed an article to that effect in the March-April 2005 issue of The Shekel. Especially God's four-letter name (JHVH - Jehovah) was much used by non-Jews, for instance on Dutch 17th C. tokens, medals and maps.
    Therefore, this token or medal (not coin!) can have many origins.
    This set of four-character could mean anything.
    The T-T (T"T in Hebrew) combination could for instance be an abbreviation of "Talmud-Tora", a Jewish center of religious learning. But not necessarily.
    The best thing is to await for a response from some of the people you applied to. Maybe he/she will shed some light on this mystery.
     
  12. mamooney

    mamooney Senior Member

    American Israel Numismatic Association FYI

    The American Israel Numismatic Association is a non-sectarian cultural and educational organization dedicated to the study and collection of Israel's coinage, past and present, and all aspects of Judaic numismatics. It is a democratically organized, membership oriented group, chartered as a non-profit association under the laws of The State of New York. The primary purpose is the development of publications, programs, meetings and other activities which will bring news, history, social and related background to the study and collection of Judaic numismatics, and the advancement of the hobby.

    AINA has sponsored major cultural/social/numismatic events such as national and regional conventions, study tours to Israel, publication of books, and other activities of benefit to the members. An annual meeting is held at the convention of the American Numismatic Association.

    AINA publishes The Shekel six times a year. It is an illustrated magazine prepared for the enlightenment and education of the membership by experts from around the world.

    You may find a AINA Membership Form at http://www.amerisrael.com/membership.html

    It is relatively inexpensive to join and the SHEKEL is a great publication.
     
  13. giladzuc

    giladzuc Senior Member

    Years Calculation:
    2005 Christian = 5765 Jewish
    The Date Corised Of 3 Or 4 Or 5 Letters Below Value With " Between
    Reading : Right To Left (hebrew) And Also Arabic "isra'il" Is Beang Read From Right To Left. Years Before 5742 / 1982 Have No '5' For Thousands Of Years. "decimal" Hebrew Dates Are Shorter. The Krause Catalog Explaines Well The Hebrew Dating System In The Section "israel"...
     
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