Which is the same advice I would give to anyone reading your condescending posts and attacks on evidence based archaeology and peer-reviewed journals.
None of the above is proof of "advanced" or ancient Aliens...is it folks. Arguments that go nowhere, philosophical standpoints that no one knows, heard of or cares a damn or alters the original ideas. Fractured regular stones are not uncommon that look "man-made". The water cuts in the sphinx are claimed to pre-date the sphinx as it is now. Well isn't it easier that of the two possibilities the erosion evidence and dating is wrong and not the general dating of the old-kingdom from whose remains c 14 and dendrochronolgy is available. One is wrong and I know which one is the obvious candidate.
The interesting thing is that, despite all the disagreements in this thread, nobody believes in ancient aliens— That says a lot.
I have refrained from commenting in this thread, but I did want to acknowledge that I don't honestly know the answers (obviously). But I don't totally discount the idea of ancient aliens either. In my mind there are too many unanswered questions. Of course, what do I know, eh?
I am disappointed in this thread. I enjoy debate, but I learned many years ago never to close my mind, no matter WHAT the argument. I work on fact, and my perspective is from the business world, not the academic world. I get frustrated by people condescending and pontificating with long winded arguments. That can be a needless waste of energy, and does not always change my mind. So... let's not forget we are enjoying our Hobbies and that this is a COIN SITE, here is a random cool coin that I love. Lookey der... a HAPPY horse galloping! Carthage Zeugitana 400-350 BC AE 15 6.1g Tanit Horse Galloping
I don't really "believe" in ancient aliens at all. At the same time, I think other life in the universe probably exists, even though we have not found too many earthlike planets in the Goldilocks zone (referring to exoplanets). At the same time, I will repeat cosmologist Martin Rees' quote: Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence.
I unwatched this thread some time back after too many people were stating their opinions as fact and bad mouthing some other more open minded folks. I realize that many coin collectors are "old men", and possibly many of them are also "grumpy old men". I remain intelligent enough to realize that I don't know everything. Therefore when anyone wants to waste our time with pointless arguments, it is quite rude. Perhaps one day a lost civilization will be found beneath the antarctic ice cap and we will then find out what sort of coins they used. Never forget that the world used to be flat and one could sail off the edge of it.
“So... let's not forget we are enjoying our Hobbies and that this is a COIN SITE, here is a random cool coin that I love. Lookey der... a HAPPY horse galloping!” Right?!?!?! Thank YOU @Alegandron!
At this point David Atherton abandoned evidence based debate in favour of personal abuse. This stance was soon apparently echoed and then supported by ten people. No one spoke against. Culminating an image of vomit (which Alegandron apparently “likes”). Man is a rational animal—so at least I have been told. Throughout a long life, I have looked diligently for evidence in favour of this statement, but so far I have not had the good fortune to come across it Bertrand Russell
Absence of evidence doesn't mean evidence of absence...except in this case. I guess ancient pre-flood civilisations tidied up after themselves. Coins were not needed for millennia and soon will not be again.
I'm not sayin' it was aliens, but it sure looks like Princess Leia and R2D2 on the reverse, with Admiral Akbar's ship hovering over the Princess' elbow:
Incorrect sir, I stated your posts were condescending. I have no idea what you are like personally. I abandoned a meaningful discussion with you a long time ago when I realised you have an axe to grind against modern evidence based archaeology. I should have taken the hint.
Since 'spooky archaeology' was mentioned in the SAA Journal a few times, may I recommend this excellent book on the subject. "In Spooky Archaeology author Jeb J. Card follows a trail of clues left by adventurers and professional archaeologists that guides the reader through haunted museums, mysterious hieroglyphic inscriptions, fragments of a lost continent that never existed, and deep into an investigation of magic and murder. Card unveils how and why archaeology continues to mystify and why there is an ongoing fascination with exotic artifacts and eerie practices." A book for those who treasure the mythos of Indiana Jones.
For some reason this thread has long legs - and I can't figure out why. Suffice it to say virtually no one "believes" in ancient aliens. The Sphinx is not 13,000 (or even 30,000) years old. The Naqada culture dates to around 3,500 B.C. just before the rise of the "Scorpion King" on the Narmer pallet. It has been pretty well established by professional archaeologists that early Pharaonic culture succeeded this period.
No personal abuse, you really are condescending and sarcastic, not that anyone holds that against you. BTW, possibly also humorless, considering that you can't tell that is someone blowing milk out their nose at something humorous.
I find this fascinating. David Atherton’s suggestion - that my posts were condescending but that did not imply I was condescending – was rhetorical charlatanry. How could it not be? Do my posts perhaps write themselves? Your own piece of personal abuse is blatantly self contradictory, and importantly, lacks of any attempt at substantiation. Which posts are you suggesting were condescending and sarcastic, and why? Rob T