She Said, "Come to Me!", and I Did!

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Catbert, Sep 27, 2008.

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  1. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    They're pushing the market, because that's what they do. The only guy who's likely to complain is the buyer. But that coin ain't no XF. And if it's a good VF, Catbert's is a much gooder one (IMO).
     
    eddiespin, Sep 27, 2008
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  3. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    all of us cant be spock :D
     
    spock1k, Sep 27, 2008
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  4. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    Nice grab Catbert!! I'm not a big fan of toning but thats a really nice Walker.
     
    Indianhead65, Sep 27, 2008
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  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Nice angle shot!!
     
    green18, Sep 27, 2008
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  6. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    wayyyyy over graded.
    Here is a F15 that when I first posted it everyone said VG. Sent it to the OLD, OLD ANACS and it came back F15. This is what I would call a solid VG. There is much more ware, and alot more of the detail is missing. That is why I marked Cat's coin down as F. It is a nice fine, but I can't go VF.

    Here is what turns me off about the Catbert's coin....
    The leg is nicked up pertty good. The hand, breast, and arm show a good bit of wear.
    The Eagle also shows quite the wear.

    Don't get me wrong---it's a nice coin, and a key date!

    Speedy
     
    Speedy, Sep 27, 2008
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  7. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Really nice coin and I think I would call it VF. Don't know enough about them, but I like the look of that coin. Beats the heck out of those blast white coins - my opinion only.
     
    mark_h, Sep 27, 2008
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  8. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    I agree.

    And by the way Catbert, if you want some nice UNC Walkers like the ones I showed you, just show a little restraint and save you money for a common date :) :)

    Seriously though, for $115 you definitely did not get ripped off, IMO. I like that coin.
    I think I'll post my 38-D in another thread.
     
    AdamL, Sep 27, 2008
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  9. McNulty

    McNulty New Member

    The coin is definitely a VF. I think it is probably a retoned old cleaning. So price wise, according to CDN's "current market value," I'd say you did pretty well. The important thing is you like it, and ultimately that is what really matters.
     
    McNulty, Sep 27, 2008
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  10. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Your Coin is a solid VF and for $115 you did great. I've seen specimens like that go for $50 to $60 more. With the keys in just about any series you can throw out the grey sheet.
     
    bqcoins, Sep 28, 2008
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  11. j0nnyjo

    j0nnyjo Junior Member

    I'd easily call that a strong VF - almost pushing XF in my opinion. I guess I'd probabaly go VF30-35 if you twisted my arm. Very nice coin! I think you got a good deal.
     
    j0nnyjo, Sep 28, 2008
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  12. alpha480v

    alpha480v Senior Member

    I would call that a solid vf-35. Natural toning. I see that I'm not the only one that has coins call out to them lol!
     
    alpha480v, Sep 28, 2008
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  13. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    JJ teaparty usually has a nice selection of walkers for sale, and they seem to pick ones that are nice for the grade. Anyway, here is one graded xf-40 by pcgs, and I don't see much difference in terms of wear with catbert's: http://www.jjteaparty.com/APIC/80375.jpg
     
    ksparrow, Sep 28, 2008
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  14. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    I'd say (IMO) it's a VF 30-35. It's a nice coin and a fair price.

    Bruce
     
    mralexanderb, Sep 28, 2008
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  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There's a bit more to it than that. The '21-S (coin in your link) is known to be weakly struck. The '38-D is not. There's a whole list of these coins that are known to be weakly struck and allowances are made for that when grading them.

    That said, there is also a great difference in the standards used by PCGS and those used by the ANA for grading these coins. The standards used by PCGS are much more lenient.

    ANA XF40
    obv- Wear shows on head, breast, arms, and legs. Nearly all gown lines are visible. Sandal details are complete. Breast and knee are nearly flat. Surface: Traces of mint luster may still show.

    rev - High points of eagle are lightly worn. Half the breast and leg feathers are visible. Central parts of feathers below neck are well worn.
    Surface: Traces of mint luster may still show.

    PCGS - XF40/45 coins have flatness in the head, breast, left hand, and skirt lines of the left leg, with blending of the breast, hand and skirt lines. The breast, upper wing, and leg feathers will be worn mostly flat, and some wear is evident on the central wing feathers.

    But even judging by the PCGS standards, the coin you have pictured here is over-graded. I would say that they have bumped the grade because of the value aspect.
     
    GDJMSP, Sep 28, 2008
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  16. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    OK, GD, very good. Now take a position for a grade estimation for my coin, will you? (with the usual caveats that grading by pictures is difficult). :eating:

    Thank you in advance!
     
    Catbert, Sep 28, 2008
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  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'd say VF25, old cleaning and re-toned.
     
    GDJMSP, Sep 28, 2008
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  18. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    Much obliged!
     
    Catbert, Sep 28, 2008
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