Swedish 1 ore 1926 brockage with strange crescent -Help!-

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  1. SwedishError

    SwedishError New Member

    This is a very nice first strike brockage.
    I need help with identifying the unstruck crescent shaped area. The coin is weakly struck opposed to this area. I can't think of any scenario that will end up to this.

    Thoughts?


    1ö2.jpg 1ö1.jpg
     
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    Is your first photo supposed to look like this ?

    1ö2.jpg
     
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    No.. It looks the way he posted it.. That's why it is a Brockage! ;)
     
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  5. SwedishError

    SwedishError New Member

    I don't follow... Yes, if it's inverted. It's incuse, just like my picture shows.
     
  6. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    Interesting coin then.
     
  7. SwedishError

    SwedishError New Member

    Yes it is interesting. No theories? :)
     
  8. SwedishError

    SwedishError New Member

    Another angle.
    It's got the exact shape as another coin or planchet.

    IMG_20190506_190737.jpg
     
  9. SwedishError

    SwedishError New Member

    It's also a partial collar.

    IMG_20190506_194842.jpg
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I can think of one thing that could cause that, the coin that stuck to the hammer die and made the brockage was struck on an elliptical clipped planchet. An elliptical clip planchet was struck, stuck to the hammer die and then created a brockage on the next planchet that entered the coining chamber
     
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  11. SwedishError

    SwedishError New Member

    Wow! That really is a probable explanation. But it seem too good to be true. I feel it is so unlikely that such a rare error coin made my error coin.
    Are there any other known examples of coins struck by an elliptical clipped coin?
     
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  14. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    As the error-ref entry indicates, there are three possible causes for aligned partial brockages such as this. I suspect that it's a brockage from a coin struck on an elliptical planchet, but I can't entirely rule out a first-strike brockage from an off-center (partial) die cap.
     
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  15. SwedishError

    SwedishError New Member

    @mikediamond Thank you.
    I have to ask about the difference to another coin I have. It is very similar, yet very different. How come the crescent shaped part at the bottom is struck on this one, and unstruck on the other? I thought this one was struck by an early stage off-center die cap? 2öre1877.jpg
     
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  16. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    The prospect of the crescent not covered by the brockage-maker being die-struck on both faces depends on the vagaries of striking pressure. Striking pressure is, in turn, determined by ram pressure, minimum die clearance, and other variables. With respect to this 2 ore coin, I suspect it was struck by an off-center die cap. I'd need to see an edge-on view of the edge closest to the "2" before making a more confident determination.
     
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  17. SwedishError

    SwedishError New Member

    @mikediamond Thank you for your time.
    Here are some pictures of the edge, closest to the 2. The edge is very wide and almost conical.
    Is it really the same type of error as the 1 ore?

    IMG_20200401_185941.jpg
    IMG_20200401_185759.jpg
     
  18. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    The 2 ore coin shows a significant amount of horizontal lipping, which is characteristic of aligned partial brockages generated by partial die caps.
     
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