1978 unusal struck thru late stage die cap

Stop saying that we are lying. Act like an adult if you wish to be treated that way.

 

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Well the ones doing it needs to stop calling me Avery G and other names like idiot , that is not very nice .
I'm not trying to bother anyone at all .

 

He pretends he is an older guy like in his 60s or 70s. He is not.

Based on his lack of correct punctuation, and phrases he uses like "just saying," I am certain he is using a cell phone; likely late 20s or 30s, more than likely. Maybe early 40s

 

So you feel the need to insult all the members here? You keep doing it over and over again in different post. You should not paint every member with the same wide brush.

 

Before you edited this post, you asserted the the TPG’s would lie and send the coin back as exactly what all the experts on here have told you ( I’ve read it many times and wish now I would have screenshot it). Did I take you out of context or did you misspeak? You said that you put me on your “do not respond list” , but yet you respond to others that you have claimed to have placed on the same list????? Have you sent this coin in or not? Hard to tell by your obfuscation and contradictions in your previous posts. Post the pictures I originally asked for... you know, the ones that must’ve sparked your initial response. You won’t because that’s the definitive proof (actually not needed for correct attribution). Please don’t come back with some third, fourth or fifth rate TPG and claim redemption and want apologies form the experts here. BTW I am not an expert by any means.

 

I have spent a few hours today trying to find a way to send this coin in to either ANACS or NGC. They must both be closed up . Anyway ANACS has a 5 coin minimum for submission .I don't have any other coins sent in and I'm not going to pay a fortune to have a cheap coin slabbed and authenticated.If someone I can trust wants to send this coin for me I would send it to them with the authentication papers for it. The only one on CT that I would trust is the moderator that I sold a very unusual coin a few years back. I would recognize him if he would message me. I don't have a membership at PCGS but they would be too pricey anyway for this coin. So I have to remove my promise to you , so I do apologize to all of you. Don't give up on me anyway , ANACS was closed today and I left a message.

 

If I end up putting this old trouble maker on Ebay with the experts decision so it can be graded authenticated how many on here would bid for it. I knew almost immediately this one was a true mint error soon as I found it while searching thru rolls. I'm not mad at anyone for downing it because all they had to go by was the photos. This was caused to be like it is from a small piece of a die cap or some other piece of metal that was in between the coin and the die. The error experts opinion is starting to make sense. He said the die cap had been rotating between strikes. It looks like the struck thru piece may have been struck with part of the collar and kept moving from left to right between strikes and left the impressions of the collar on the blockage piece. I knew it would cause a ruckus when I found it from the way it looks. L knew all along it was a real error and that is why I would never believe it was a just a damaged PMD coin . I'm nicknaming it old Rukus so if you see it on Ebay it will be titled as " Old Rukus " Maybe it is worth more than I thought .

 

I thought an expert, Mike Diamond, already have his opinion in post #60 and said it was PMD?

Why must you continue with this nonsense about this so-called unnamed expert. Many error collectors on this site know the national recognized experts like Diamond and Weinberg for example. Send it to be authenticated or tell us your expert. Anything else is just trolling

 

There is no need to be hostile. Just send it in to a well-known TPG and we will get our answer. Anyway, if it is real, the NGC or PCGS holder is going to give it more value. That is just one man's opinion though, so if it comes back in a "Not Genuine" or "damage", don't blame me.

 

Hey I don't think I'm the one that has been hostile about the ole Rukus coin and I will bet my life this is a real mint error. I'm not some newbie and I do know how tell the difference between PMD and a true mint error.I have learned this from over 40 years of examining coins . I'm not going to waste a bunch of money getting it graded and slabbed. As for it coming back in a body bag , no way possible. Ole Rukus is all ready authenticated as a mint error and has the paper to send in with it. This coin should be helpful to the newer collectors to learn from it. I'm hoping someone out there enjoys seeing it. As for me being hostile about all I did was to disagree with some folks and I know I was on the right side. Some folks needs to learn to not try to judge a hard coin to identify from just a image of it in my opinion.

 

Although I know for sure this old coin is a true mint error,i'm wondering what about it or my photos would make folks think it is just a damaged old coin? I think my photos are easy to see.I can't see anything about it that would cause anyone to say it is PMD . Please give me the reason if you have one that makes you think it is not a real mint error and we can discuss it. Hopefully someone may learn something new from this struck thru die cap coin

 

I'm betting Mr. Weinberg would recognize this coin for a true mint error. He is probably about my age and folks like him and me have been at this before most of you on here were even born. I remember enjoying getting magazines with coins for sale from him nearly 40 years ago. I was around 27 back then . I do believe us older folks have seen more than some of the younger ones. Just like I said on here earlier I knew the coin was not just a damaged coin almost as soon as I saw it and to prove it was a true error for you CT members I sent it to a expert that is as old as me and he agreed with me and explained how it happened. If Mr.Weinberg wants to send me a message I will tell him my name and our old friend that looked at this coin.

 

It seems that few want to chat with you any longer. I don't put anyone on ignore using the software here. I'll guess that Skip is the other expert.

 

All of you here on CT can keep on saying this old unusual coin is PMD all you want to. It is right there in the photo for everyone that can see or want to see should be easily able to see it if they have something else other than just a little cell phone.Would you please tell me what it is about my photos that makes you think PMD ?

 

Looking at your pics again and I don’t think your obverse and reverse pics are of the same coin.

take a pic of it in a mirror to prove me wrong.

and even with an older cell phone you can get clearer pics than that.

 

Well.. Mike Diamond's response

Have you ever listened to the song "Let it go"?

It's fine that in your own little world it is what you think it is. But in our real world.. It ain't!

 

Don't ever say that.. It's like famous people that sell their souls to the devil

 

And I pray that it does not..

 

Thanks for your reply and for not being hostile to me. I am just not very good at all with photography . You can rest assured the pics. I put on here is the correct obverse and reverse of the die cap coin.I would never try to steer people wrong. Also the rim of it is normal in every way and was struck in the collar.. What makes it look odd in the photos is the fact that the unusual looking area is a little above the coins rim and the shadow from the light causes the rim to look out of round . This was caused to be this way from the die cap causing the metal to flow up towards the collar. One error expert on here said it could not be a mint error because he thought the extra metal could not be folded from the rim. What he didn't know is that the tiny pieces of copper are retained metal from the die cap. Everyone on here is welcome to their own opinion . I just don't like how I have been treated by a few members that are supposed to be experts and should have easily recognized the mint error from the two photos. I'm thinking they may just enjoy downing others.

 

I’m not taking your word for it and you can put questions to rest if you take a pic of the rim and the coin in the mirror.

I’m not sure why this is so hard for you to do unless you are hiding something.

it would literally take 30 seconds