Does this hoard for sale look legitimate?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by LakeEffect, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated Supporter

    I've been trying to improve my grading and counterfeit detecting ability and came across this auction on eBay.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/thedockter...1bvXmm:rk:2:pf:0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

    I'm not saying these are counterfeits, nor am I impugning the seller. But several coins looked fishy to me - maybe they're not.

    Lastly, the premise of the sale is very odd. A safe is discovered in a dumpy pottery shop in rural West Virginia that contains dozens of amazing coins. Everything from 18th century copper to gold to slabbed 2006 ASE's. The 200-year-old shop is constructed of cinder blocks (in 1818?) and the photo of the safe shows only a bag of well-circulated Washington quarters. Thoughts? 1838Cent.jpg 1873GoldDollar.jpg
     
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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Surfaces have been altered. I've seen other coins offered by the same seller, and thought the same of those as well.
     
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  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  5. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    The coins look good, the hoard looks like fake hype.
     
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  6. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

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    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

  8. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated Supporter

    Thanks for the feedback.

    That was my impression. A silly story attached to a bunch of coins, many with questionable surfaces, made me wonder what else may be afoot.

    I guess you evaluate each coin on its own merits and be careful, as usual, on eBay.
     
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  9. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    A lot of these coins look cleaned and then AT'd. Perhaps some are fake but I am not wasting time going through them. I love the "200 year old" cinderblock pottery store! Just someone peddling problem stuff they picked up cheap with a hopeful backstory.
     
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  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Way too clean for the age. Spider sense is tingling.
     
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  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Crap.......can we say that? He never does........
     
  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Maybe @justafarmer could do an overlay on the 09'S VDB last I looked it was almost a grand.
     
  13. Big Al from Bluefield West Virginia is completely full of BS. He just auctioned off 205 - 5 once bags of junk silver and this is his story...

    “During the demolition of a 200+ year old pottery store an enormous safe was found. The shop owner was an avid coin collector and hoarded away some of the best pieces that came into the shop, just as his father had done. Many of the coins are dirty, but I read online not to touch the coins in any way.”

    Really? You just sold over a ton of coins for at least $13K in one night, but you had to go online to read about coin collecting for the first time as if you have no experience in the business whatsoever? That’s believable!
     
  14. Gregory Adams

    Gregory Adams New Member

    I won an auction for a 1861 $20 double eagle from this individual. Have not paid yet. Would like to have a 3rd party coin expert work as a moderator whom Ill pay and when the coin is receive, verify authenticity and then release payment to the seller. Does anyone know of such an individual in Washington State.
     
  15. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated Supporter

  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

  17. Golden Egg

    Golden Egg New Member

    March 2020 and he is still auctioning coins from this "find". The story line is fishy. Sounds like he found these, and knows the store owners (father and son). If that were true they would have these coins, not him.
     
  18. Joe2007

    Joe2007 Well-Known Member

    Appears that he has sold over 6,000 items using this song and dance. Why stop now when the deception is effective?
     
  19. White Ger. Shep. Lover

    White Ger. Shep. Lover Well-Known Member

    Yeah, Big Al "The Coin Dockter" is quite the character. He's right there with Mr. Haney from Hooterville as far as con men are concerned. He'll mingle in a decent coin now and then, but basically his stuff is doctored up junk. I hate saying bad things about people, but just look at his ad.....if that doesn't give you a clue, then......
     
  20. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I've seem his dodge for about two years now and it's the same now as it was then. Now, the coins are massively over-exposed so you can't tell anything about them. I would not even consider doing any business with this enterprise.
     
  21. bud250r

    bud250r Active Member

    Run Forrest Run.
     
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