Please evaluate Junius Brutus

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Steven Michael Gardner, Mar 25, 2020.

  1. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    Those of you that can spot ancient fake coins with the blink of an eye,
    please lend your input on this one, I am by no means an expert
    however when a rare ancient coin has surface roughness or pitting
    my fake-o-meter starts flashing red blinkers...
    Am I unjustified in this outlook, I really would like this coin to
    be authentic and i don't wish to brush it off if i am not justified???

    Steven
     

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  3. akeady

    akeady Well-Known Member

    It just looks corroded to me, but genuine.
     
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  4. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I'd say harshly cleaned, but genuine.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  6. octavius

    octavius Well-Known Member

    I agree that it looks like it was very harshly cleaned, but genuine. There is a banker's mark to the neck area - I can't recall ever seeing that on a fake, but maybe someone else has.
     
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  7. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    This fills me with more confidence, I did purchase this from a fairly reputable
    coin seller who I have dealt with previously so all in all I am sleeping more soundly over this coin... Thank you all for your more expert opinions!!
     
  8. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Harshly cleaned and somewhat crystalized metal IMO

    Q
     
  9. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    There are pre-applied bankers' marks/test cuts on ancient counterfeits (plated silver) to make them appear more genuine, but I haven't heard of one on a modern fake.
     
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  10. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    I have seen them on cast fakes for sure. I do not remember seeing one on a struck or pressed fake, but I don't see why a transfer die couldn't also transfer a bankers marks.
     
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  11. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Since banker's marks don't have style, I could imagine practicing a bit with a chisel on a US cent and then using the same technique on a recently make fake to add a "banker's mark" that was not cast and not in the die. I don't recall seeing a modern banker's mark on a modern fake, but if a counterfeiter had the skill to make a convincing fake I think the banker's mark part would be easy to fake.
     
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  12. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    What is the weight of the coin?
     
  13. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    18 mm 3.94 grams
     
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  14. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    That weight is good for a denarius of that time period with some wear on it.
     
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