1916 Buffalo Nickel grading test.....

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Paddy54, Mar 22, 2020.

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What coin is the higher grade coin A or coin B ?

  1. Coin A

    14 vote(s)
    58.3%
  2. Coin B

    10 vote(s)
    41.7%
  1. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Somehow at that age I knew I was better off. Lol
     
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  3. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    I pick coin B....Because coin B is coin A....Before it was cleaned.
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    :meh: Joe ah......no....
     
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  6. gronnh20

    gronnh20 Well-Known Member

    @Paddy54 said that rim break was a chunk of plastic. I agree with your die assessment.
     
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  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I love both coins. From the votes, it looks like folks had a tough choice.
     
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  8. Paddy54

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  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    We buy with our eyes....... :cigar:











    That's why I bought both......;)
     
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  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Couldn't be because if you look at some devices you'll notice that they would not of changed. Or line up. One example the eye lids...Compare B to A the lids on A look full the ones on B thin.... again strike coin B full strike, coin A typical , so if your eye goes to detail you pick B for luster more so A.
     
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  11. Dug13

    Dug13 Well-Known Member

    I did not realize that strike does not figure into the grade, what does figure into their grading?
     
  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Thank you Paddy54. Both are beautiful coins but I picked B and I'd do it again.
     
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  13. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I can't believe A is a 61. If it's MS then what dropped it so low?
     
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  14. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    A is the winner in my book.
     
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  15. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Some of those old ANACS slabs had tough judges.
     
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  16. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    The purpose of this thread was two fold.....first to show that grading is Subjective,and we buy with our eyes as to what we like.
    Both specimens are sweet nicely toned coins, coin B did have a better strike but color muted the underling luster that in the photo didn't show.
    Coin A is in my eye was under graded but at a time peroid that was market acceptable,.
    It was flooded with 2 lights to enhance the luster and color. The coin in my eyes is a solid 64 with a slight bump for color.
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  17. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Supporter! Supporter

    Well, being stuck in town over the weekend, I missed the initial post and you have already revealed the TPG grades, but I think coin A was robbed, but the lighting may have fooled me. Now, if a bunch of us chipped in to cover you breaking both of them out and sending them in again and see what happens, that would be great.
     
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  18. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I chose coin A as the higher grade, but I prefer coin B, because, as @Paddy54 said, I buy with my eyes. Even in the old slab, I find it hard to believe anyone thought that coin A was an MS-61. Had you shown me an ANA slab, I might have believed it, but I think somebody got robbed at MS-61, and I bet @Paddy54 got a good deal because of that number. ;)

    I agree that grading is a bit subjective; experienced people can easily differ +- 1 in MS grades, and, often the choice between two grades in the circulated grades is debatable. But, what you've shown here isn't that. You've got a coin that was undergraded years ago, IMO, and undergraded to a tougher prevailing standard. I would have not been surprised to see that coin at MS-62 or MS-63 in the ANACS slab. A better way to show how grading is subjective would be to get two coins of the same date, graded by the same company, in the same slab generation side by side. I kind of doubt you could find a pair like that that are 5 grades apart!

    Either way, I don't blame you for buying and liking both.
     
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  19. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    The problem is I like the old slabs. Anancs soap bar and a NGC fatty.
    Don't know if I would break them out
     
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  20. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I always look at a show for old slabs and what's in them.....
    One never knows what treasures can be found. And yes at a bargan price.
     
  21. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    1935 BN 2019 obv (2).jpg 1935 BN 2019 Rev. (2).jpg @Paul M. $10 purchase old soap bar detailed so they say...
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    Old soap bar details $20
     
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