AV 2 Dukaten 1630

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  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    One of my fav. coins...
    AV 2 Dukaten 1630 Dresden Mint
    Sachsen/ Kurfurstentum
    Johann Georg I 1611-56
    Commerative type to celebrate 100 th anniversary of the Augsburg Confession.

    Johann Georg I allied himself to the Protestant side in the 1618-48 conflict. 9c68d320c109ea160f6085e3f737b932.jpg
     
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  3. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    Wow a 2 Dukaten. Any multiple of a ducat is quite rare.
    Nice addition.
     
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  4. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    These get pricey when you get into the 10/20/30 Dukaten.
     
  5. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    They are also pricey when they are 2,3,4 ducats and higher. Your
    piece is very well struck and in superb condition. So many multiple
    ducats are mishandled ie. holed or scratched with the value.
     
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  6. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Don't you just cringe when you see a 10 Dukat piece from HRE with an "X" on it. Two things come to mind:
    a/ Why did the mint not issue them with value markings/ I mean some series have odd denominations like 22/ 24/28 (Salzburg) Dukaten, so it was hard for someone to know what they had in their pocket. Personally, I could never tell the difference between a 22 and a 24 dukaten in weight by handling it. The Bohemia 40/ 50/ 100 had value on them.
    b/ even so, why disfigure a beautifull coin.?????
    I for one would have put it aside for my collection:) probably would have went directly to mint to get a freshly minted one....today I couldn't care less what our modern mints produce=boring designs:shame:
     
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  7. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    This one isn't it?I don't know if it was metioned or posted on this forum before but i simply remembered about a 10 ducat with an X graffiti on it!Very sad!

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  8. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    More money then brains! I have a AV 10 Zecchini=10 Dukaten from the Papal States. There is a value on that coin. 64e575b873da35d1583d7c0992e406f2.jpg
     
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  9. goldducat

    goldducat Active Member

    Multiple ducats are very different from single and double pieces. Multiples were minted for two purposes: either for a souvenir for some nobleman, diplomat, etc. or for international trade. For the first one it was no important what the weight of the coin or medal is. For the second purpose coins were weighed anyway, so it only was important to establish a corect fineness of gold in coins. That's why the ducat standard received a wide acceptance all over the world. https://coinweek.com/world-coins/wo...herlands-gold-ducat-part-2-standard-followed/

    Why disfigure a beautiful coin? Because when used in trade, it's value was equal to value of gold in it, so nobody care about condition. Gold pieces marked with their values were easier for merchants to recognize them quickly. A very rare 30 ducats piece was exactly same value as 30 common single ducats. Do you think only 10 ducats marked with X are disfigured? ;) Look at the 100 ducats specimens here https://zlotedukaty.pl/badania/ - one of them was just sold for $2.18M! At a time of minting it this coin was just a value of 350 gram of gold, plus some premium for a nice form, a great souvenir for some VIP. As you see on photos, also such coins were marked with 100 on the edge, as well as you may find a privy mark od a collector (C letter) in the field on the left from the king, and "100" value scratched with a needle on the right side, also in the field.

    Collecting coins became popular in Europe in the 19th century. Prior to that period coins were used as your dollar bills are used today.
     
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  10. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Interesting, learned something new. Thanks for posting that:)
     
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