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  1. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    This coin, 1990 Spanish 200 pesetas, is missing the tilde (ñ) the wiggly line above the n, It is a standard character in their alphabet and is used when you need to pronounce the n as nya, as in Espanya (España). I have lived in Spain for 15 years and have never seen it spelled with a standard n.
    https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2542.html
    The coin has no listed variants and is referenced as km#855
    Any ideas 20200320_231537.jpg 20200320_231633.jpg 20200320_232257.jpg
     
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  3. gronnh20

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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Numista shows it. Maybe yours has circulation wear?
    Oh wait.. you saw that already.
    2308-original.jpg
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Look at the spacing between the A in ESPAÑA on your coin and the image on Numista. I notice a difference due to wear.
    N.JPG
     
  6. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Wear or no wear, it seems like some part if it should still show.
    Chinese counterfeit, most likely. :D (j/k...I have no idea).
     
  7. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    Die deterioration? In the photo listing, it is extremely close to edge. What does the reverse look like? Pressure change ?

    Jim
     
  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Imagine trying to sing the ABC's song using the Spanish alphabet.. You can't with all the extra letters such as - CH, LL, Ñ and even RR
     
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  9. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    It gets even more confusing - many Spanish will say that K and W should be dropped from their alphabet as no native Spanish word uses them. Even H is under threat as on it's own it has virtually no sound. Officially CH and LL have already been dropped and there is debate as to whether RR was ever a letter in its own right.
     
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  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Really? So that would be a huge problem for me because my last name is Padilla pronounced Pah dee yah in Spanish. That's going to be weird! :hilarious:
     
  11. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    I think that the design leaves little or no room for the tilde. Even if they managed to squeeze one in through remaking some dies, you would have a place on the working dies that would immediately crack and then break off. Maybe that's why they omitted it from some of the dies struck and filled the space in.
     
  12. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    How are you doing bill ?
    Hope all is well in Canada ....
     
  13. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Add Cholla cactus to the list. Pronounced Choy-a
     
  14. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    It's not that CH, LL ad RR are not still used - just that they are no longer recognised as separate letters in the alphabet.
    If you applied the same logic that put CH and LL as letters in Spanish, then in English we could have numerous new letters - CH, PH, TH, GH, GHT just to name a few off the top of my head.
    Just think of all the business in redesigning our keyboards!
     
  15. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Sorry guys i couldn't stay online yesterday. Thanks for your thoughts about this coin. Every picture i can find for this year has it shown in full or close to the edge. The reverse is shown below
    20200322_101648.jpg
     
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  16. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

    Never understand errors. Could a grease filled die cause the missing tilde?

    edit; never mind. It's incuse.
     
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