Postumus / Moneta Antoninianus

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  1. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Watching the stock and commodity markets lately is worse than getting ECT, (electo convulsive therapy) :eek:. I'm glad I've got ancient coins to escape with :). Yesterday while trying to organize some coins acquired over the last few years I stumbled on an interesting coin of the Gallic Usurper I got several years ago but never posted, pictured below. The coin has an excellent portrait of Postumus, and depicts the goddess Moneta on the reverse. Emperor Gallienus invaded the territory of the renegade Postumus after he had Saloninus, his younger son, executed. This epic invasion lasted from late 263 to early 265, and ended in a stalemate. The coinage being struck by Postumus at that time was far superior to the coinage of Gallienus. The coinage of Gallienus was bronze with a silver wash while the coinage of Postumus was composed of 20% silver, and the depiction of Moneta on the reverse of my coin is clearly a boast that his coinage was better.

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    For comparison pictured below is a antoninianus struck under Gallienus from the Milan Mint about the same time as my coin, courtesy of Wild Winds.

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    Gallienus, sole reign, AD 260 - 268, Milan Mint, AE antoninianus: 4.07 gm, 21 mm.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Postumus 4.jpg
    POSTUMUS
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: IMP C POSTVMVS P F AVG, radiate, draped and
    cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: MONETA AVG, Moneta standing left holding scales and cornucopiae
    Struck at Cologne, 262-5 AD
    3.7g. 21mm
    RIC 75
     
  4. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    That's a very nice portrait and reverse on your Postumus! He definitely had some skilled engravers working for him.

    Here are a less stellar Postumus as well as an earlier eastern Moneta by Septimius Severus. I find it noteworthy that with the exception of e.g. the idiosyncratic Rhenus and Hercules Deusoniensis reverses, almost all Postumus reverse types are adapted from earlier Imperial coins.
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    Postumus, Gallic Roman Empire, AR antoninian, 262–266 AD, Trier mint. Obv: IMP C POSTVMVS P F AVG; bust of Postumus, radiate, draped, cuirassed, r. Rev: MONETA AVG; Moneta, draped, standing l., holding scales in r. hand and cornucopiae in l. hand. 23mm, 2.96g. Ref: Mairat 246–7/320–1; RIC V Postumus 75/315.

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    Septimius Severus, Roman Empire, AR denarius, 194–195 AD, Emesa mint. Obv: IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS II; head of Septimius Severus, laureate, r. Rev: MONET AVG; Moneta, draped, standing l., holding scales in extended r. hand and cornucopiae in l. hand. 18mm, 3.32g. Ref: RIC IV Septimius Severus 411A. ("Scooped"?)

    Unfortunately, the coinage quality of the Gallic Empire followed the current course of the stock market in the decade after Postumus:

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    Tetricus II as Caesar, Gallic Roman Empire, AE antoninian, 272–273 AD, Trier mint. Obv: C PIV ESV TETRICVS CAES; bust of Tetricus II, radiate, draped, r. Rev: [SPES] PVBL[ICA]; Spes walking l., holding flower in r. hand and raising robe with l. hand. 16mm, 1.54g. Ref: Mairat 795; RIC V Tetricus I 272.
     
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  5. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..for a usuper, he sure had fine quality coins minted..:) Postumus 001.JPG Postumus 002.JPG
     
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  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    That's one of the best reverse strikes I've seen on an ant of Postumus. Great find!
     
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  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Both Gallienus and Postumus saw the quality of the metal in their coins decrease badly during the time they were active. The fact is there are certain times in history that economic factors make it a better time not to rule if you do not want to be blamed for what happened.
    Early years silver:
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    Later copper:
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  8. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I have to post one of my favorite coins ever: Spaghetti Venus

    Postumus BI/AR Antoninianus, 259-268 AD Lyons mint. (RIC 89)
    OBV: IMP C POSTVMVS PF AVG. Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    REV: VICTORIA AVG. Victory walking left holding wreath, captive at foot.
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  9. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I love the contrast between the Postumus and Gallienus Monetas! :D

    My favourite portrait of Postumus is on a coin issued by Aureolus in 267-68:

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    FIDES AEQUIT, Fides seated left, holding patera and standard.

    Seems to be better billon than Gallienus was producing at the time, i.e. 267-68. (Aureolus was Gallienus's Dux Equitum who defected to Postumus.)

    Neat detail: The abnormal spelling "AEQVIT," found on the first emission, is thought to reflect a change in pronunciation that had occurred in northern Italy and Gaul. It was soon corrected to "EQVIT".
     
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  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Yes, this is a neat variation even if we only see part of the A on the coin. On the other hand, many of this series are on such a small flan that you rarely get all of any letters. Mine is FIDES EQVIT or the lower half thereof.
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  11. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Size and weight? Mine is 21mm and 3.56g. I wonder if the later issues tend to be smaller, lighter, and in worse billon, as the situation deteriorated in Milan.

    I'd like to get a first issue of Claudius from the city, just after Aureolus turned the city over to him. Anybody have one?
     
  12. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    The fortunes of many emperors & usurpers were ever changing depending on the current economy as Doug Smith illustrates with his post. Everything was going well for Postumus for a long time until one of his generals, Laelianus, staged a revolt in Mainz. The revolt lasted about two months and Postumus was successful in quelling it, later executing Laelianus. At the same time this revolt was happening the new emperor, Claudius II "Gothicus", was attacking from the south and managed to take Spain back into Roman control. Postumus was assassinated by his own troops in 269 most likely because he refused to let them sack Mainz.
    It looks like the Moneta antoniniani are plentiful and many fine example have been posted by CT members. The examples by Bing (James), Orielensis, and ominus1 are all handsome coins. As Orielensis points out he had talented celators working for him.The portrait on the coin Severus Alexander posted is breathtaking and equal to any of his portraits seen on gold coins.
     
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  13. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I'm not watching the stock market....oh wait, I am. Just can't admit it. I'm afraid it may be a 3-5 year recovery with the contraction of the economy, blow-up of the VC and private equity markets, subsequent lack of investment. (Swallows hard). I'm waiting to get my 1,000 silver-washed antoniniani from the Treasury.

    Nice example of the Postumus Moneta type.
     
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  14. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Here's a double sestertius that I picked up last year from Roma Numismatics.

    Postumus Æ Double Sestertius. Colonia Agrippinensis, circa AD 264-265. IMP C M CAS LAT POSTVMVS P F AVG (sic!), radiate and draped bust right / HERC [PACI]FERO, Hercules standing left, holding branch, club and lion skin; S-C across fields. Bastien 145; RIC 135. 24.63g, 33mm, 1h.

    Extremely Fine; Overstruck.

    Postumus AE Double Sestertius, Roma E-Sale 58.jpg

    Some really nice examples are being posted!
     
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  15. Tony1982

    Tony1982 Well-Known Member

    Some nice coins ,although I don’t know that much about these sestertii of Postumus, AE Sestertius. Cologne/trier ? Mint

    IMP C POSTVMVS PF AVG, laureate, draped bust right.
    FIDES MILITVM, Fides standing left, holding two standards.

    RIC V-II 124; Cohen 69.
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  16. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Nice heavy example @robinjojo - also very clear design and devices particularly for being overstruck. My double sestertius is heavily patinated and worn:

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  17. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    That's a really nice bust of Postumus.
     
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  18. Tony1982

    Tony1982 Well-Known Member

    Thanks I was lucky enough to buy it off the metal detectorist who found in the uk
     
  19. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Nice example! I love that these are often overstruck on earlier sestertii. Have you been able to figure out the undertype?

    Here's my double:
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  20. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    I really like the bust. It is very well modeled for this period.

    No, I haven't examined the under-type yet.
     
  21. TJC

    TJC Well-Known Member

    Here is mine that I will pile on:
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    POSTUMUS
    Antoninianus
    O: IMP C POSTVMVS P F AVG, radiate, draped and
    cuirassed bust right
    Rx: MONETA AVG, Moneta standing left holding scales and cornucopiae
    Struck at Cologne, 262-5 AD
     
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