Suspicious coin Constantine I

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  1. Coinprinces

    Coinprinces Active Member

    Last year I picked this coin from a large container of Roman coins from a trader on a Roman market. It was organized because of the commemoration of a Roman temple (the temple of Empel, in the vicinity of 's Hertogenbosch, the Netherlands).
    Most of the coins in this tank were authentic, but too worn out for me to be interesting except this one. It is so beautiful that I immediately suspected it had to be false. But for a few euros, I bought it anyway.
    However, I have now found images of this kind of coins, and they are very similar to my coin. I still suspect that my coin has been counterfeited, but that has been done very well.
    So worry about that, if counterfeiters are so good.
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    Pictures and information below from the internet.
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    AE follis - RIC VI, 349a

    Constantine I "the Great" AD 306-337
    , AE follis. IMP CONSTANTINVS P F AVG, Laureate, cuirassed bust right / SPQR OPTIMO PRINCIPI, Three standards surmounted by hand, eagle and wreath, R Q in exergue. Rome mint, struck 312 – 313 AD = RIC VI, p. 390, 349a. (Image courtesy Antiquarica
     
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  3. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    Please try to take better pictures of your coin.
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    What makes you suspect this coin?
     
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  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    The coin looks OK to me but being a bit blurry, hard to tell.
     
  6. Coinprinces

    Coinprinces Active Member

    Older, but maybe better pictures. IMG_1955.JPG IMG_1958.JPG
     
  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    It actually looks authentic to me. Thanks for sprucing up the pictures.
     
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  8. Coinprinces

    Coinprinces Active Member

    The color is strange, and bought from a merchant at a market a coin in this condition. Just very suspicious for me.
    But if really, a bargain for 7 euros.
     
  9. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Maybe they didn't realize it was a relatively scarce type. I got a Macrianus antoninianus in an uncleaned hoard once. Somebody made a mistake and forgot to pull it out from the rest of the late roman bronze pieces.
     
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  10. Coinprinces

    Coinprinces Active Member

    a Macrianus wow lucky you,
    Seems I am lucky too, nice addition to my collection. Thanks everyone,
    really thought it was fake.
     
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  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Which is the actual color of the coin? Reddish/rust or brownish? A few years back several coins came to market that were more red than anything else. They were referred to as "Syrian Red" as the sand in parts of Syria is red and may have affected the color of the coins found there. At one point the red colored coins were very desirable and I would assume they still are. The coin looks authentic to me, but remember we are making a judgement based on an image alone.
     
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  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Was this a market in Rome? I see nothing obvious wrong but the photos are not good enough to show anything so my main concern with the coin is that a seller in Rome should be expected to ask for than 7 Euros for the item unless he knew it was bad. If the rest of the coins in the box were so worn you wrote them off as junk, the question would be the same even if the seller knew nothing about coins. For the price, it was worth the risk. The coin on Ma-shops is quite overpriced but that is normal. Mine is lower grade but was $19. If genuine, you did quite well. I suggest showing it to anyone you trust who is more experienced than you are and buying future coins from them rather than a trader in a market. rv4760bb2168.jpg
     
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  14. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I do agree that the style of the obverse portrait seems a little off, particularly the eye. But there was a lot of variation, so I can't condemn it outright. What is the size and weight? Any suspicious marks on the rim edge?
     
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  15. Coinprinces

    Coinprinces Active Member

    There are no suspicious marks on the rim edge.
    Weight is 3,96 g and size 21 from left to right and 22 from the top down .
     
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  16. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Size and weight seem okay. Nothing suspicious there.
     
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  17. Alwin

    Alwin Well-Known Member

    The color does not worry me.

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    Follis - 5.29 g - 25 mm - C.558 - RIC VI 348a
     
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