Guess the TPG grade AMAZING toned 1915-S PAN PAC

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  1. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Me neither. :D Just hedging my bets, so to speak. ;)
     
    Leadfoot, Sep 9, 2008
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  3. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Absolutely fabulous ! But hey... you already knew that ! ;)

    MS66.

    Would NGC give it a star ? You bet they would. I certainly would. If not this one, then what would get a star ?
     
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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Gonna say PCGS gave it a 67. My grade a 66. And yeah, I think NGC would give it a star.

    So there Mike :p
     
    GDJMSP, Sep 9, 2008
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  5. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Stunning, Absolutely Stunning. I think the marks on the obverse will keep it at an MS65, but it would definitely star in an NGC holder. Is that for sale?
     
    Lehigh96, Sep 9, 2008
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  6. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    some of the best toning I've seen!!
     
    Magman, Sep 9, 2008
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  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    LOL! But I had an inkling if you were ever going to go there, this would be one of the ones. ;)
     
    eddiespin, Sep 9, 2008
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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I just call 'em as I see 'em eddie. If you were to go back through the posts you'd find plenty of 65's - 67's.
     
    GDJMSP, Sep 9, 2008
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  9. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    unless those were my coins they are 70's
     
    spock1k, Sep 9, 2008
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  10. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Amen to that. And of course we were pulling your leg (...right Mike? :D). :)

    I don't think he can count that high. :D

    Eddie (retiring to the barn right about now)
     
    eddiespin, Sep 10, 2008
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  11. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    are you sure he can count?
     
    spock1k, Sep 10, 2008
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  12. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    Can you guys say undergraded .....


    I thought so & it was purchased for WELL above bid.
     

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    Bedford, Sep 10, 2008
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  13. tjenkins_1983

    tjenkins_1983 Numismaniac

    Yeah, I have a 1900-O Morgan PCGS MS65 with way more bag marks and such than my 1885-P Morgan NGC MS64!

    I guess that's what happens when you pay someone for their opinion. It just seems that there's an occasional lack of consistency.
     
    tjenkins_1983, Sep 10, 2008
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  14. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I am stunned that only graded 64. Stunned.
     
    Leadfoot, Sep 10, 2008
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  15. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    I was even more stunned when GD called it a MS66 :D
     
    Bedford, Sep 10, 2008
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  16. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    MS-64 because of the number of hits on the figure's neck, shoulder and arms.
     
    davidh, Sep 10, 2008
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  17. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    yeah it looked 65 to me but then we are only looking at pics but odds are if you crack and resubmit it will come back as a 65 at least :)
     
    spock1k, Sep 10, 2008
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  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Ya shouldn't be, it's just that there has recently been a flurry of what I would consider over-graded coins among those I have commented on. But that coin is a stunner and with my dying breath I'll say that they under-graded it.

    Now that said, you have the coin in hand Jason - what do you think it should grade ?
     
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  19. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I gave it an MS65 but I can see it getting an MS64 from the slab photo. It appears from that photo that the luster is a little subdued from the toning. Let me reiterate, IT APPEARS subdued. I still think the surfaces and eye appeal are that of a solid MS65.

    However, knowing how much emphasis NGC puts on luster with regards to the star designation, I have changed my mind and don't think that it would star. Still a great coin and a pricey one in either grade. Nice pickup.
     
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  20. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    Well in my opinion the coin is a solid MS65. I also believe if I were to crack it it would STAR at NGC . Now what am I going to do ......?:rolleyes:
     
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  21. SteveMS70

    SteveMS70 New Member


    Ohhh damn!! What's wrong with me??! I orignally said MS63 OR 64 and went and changed it!! :headbang:
    I would've been the only one right!
     
    SteveMS70, Sep 10, 2008
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