Propagating Paper Toning

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Bluntflame, Mar 11, 2020.

  1. Kentucky

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    Yeah, but no one would meet your standards. :)
     
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  3. cpm9ball

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    Good for them! ~ Chris
     
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  4. cpm9ball

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    On the contrary, but they are not my standards! There are plenty of members, here, who have ethics.

    By the way, is your LCS a member of the PNG? ~ Chris
     
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  5. Kentucky

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    Yeah, these guys are about the most honest I have ever seen. Coins Plus in Santa Clarita.
     
  6. Kentucky

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    Honestly not sure, but probably. I asked if they sent coins in for grading and they said they did.
    https://coinsplusnewhall.com/
     
  7. cpm9ball

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    Kudos to them! ~ Chris
     
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  9. Kentucky

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    Too much to read...any particular item you feel relevant? I posted an ancient coin on the bid board clearly marked as a fouree and they told the guy who bought it that it meant it was an ancient fake/forgery and he declined to buy it. I put it back up clearly marked as a fake and it sold quickly.
     
  10. Bluntflame

    Bluntflame Well-Known Member

    I honestly wasn't expecting this much feedback.
     
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  11. cpm9ball

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    As it pertains to AT coins, particularly #3.

    "To refrain from knowingly participating in, abetting or dealing in altered, repaired or “doctored” numismatic items, contemporary counterfeits, electrotypes, or published forgeries, without fully disclosing their status to my customer and/or making any attempt to deceive. Coin doctoring refers to the alteration of any portion of a coin, when that process includes any of the following:1) Movement, addition to, or otherwise altering of metal, so that a coin appears to be in a better state of preservation, or more valuable than it otherwise would be. A few examples are plugging, whizzing, polishing, engraving, “lasering” and adding or removing mint marks.
    2) Addition of any substance to a coin so that it appears to be in a better state of preservation or more valuable than it otherwise would be. The use of solvents and/or commercially available dilute acids, such as Jeweluster, by qualified professionals is not considered coin doctoring.
    3) Intentional exposure of a coin to any chemicals, substances, or processes which impart toning, such that the coin appears to be in a better state of preservation or more valuable than it otherwise would be. Naturally occuring toning imparted during long-term storage using established/traditional methods, such as coin albums, rolls, flips, or envelopes, does not constitute coin doctoring."
     
  12. Kentucky

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  13. Kentucky

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    So, taking it to the bank was OK?
     
  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    So I guess we should advise OP to use envelopes instead.

    I mean, my own father had to use corncobs and/or pages from the Sears Roebuck catalog...
     
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  15. cpm9ball

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    Of course, it was okay. The problem is that somewhere down the line, some scumbag is going to try to pawn them off as NT, and some untrained collector is liable to fall for it. So, it would have been best if you had just put them on the railroad tracks so the local freight train could take care of them. After that, you'd probably get a couple bucks apiece for them. ~ Chris
     
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  16. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    And Natural to Unintentional toning.
     
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