Weird Coin

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Spider, Mar 23, 2005.

  1. Spider

    Spider ~

    I know this should go in the foreign forum, but im lazy, what do u guys think about it?
    btw- its mexican silver
     
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  3. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Beats me!

    I tried lightening up the pictures, but still couldn't read any of the legends or make out any detail on the reverse.

    Lightened up, the bust somewhat resembles Pope John Paul II, who visited Mexico some years ago. It might be a commemorative medal from that trip. :confused: There's no coin remotely like it in Krause.
     
  4. Spider

    Spider ~

    Joannes Paulus II pontmax on top obverse
    Zacatecas MCMMC on bottom obverse

    Zacatecane urbis FidelissimAE (that weird A and E thing put together) Montes Sicui Cera Fluxeruni- around top on reverse

    the rest i cant read, too little

    anyone understand? anyone?
     
  5. Spider

    Spider ~

    do u guys think it worth anything?
     
  6. Spider

    Spider ~

    i know its the Pope but does any one have any info on it?
     
  7. Spider

    Spider ~

    it weighs 37.87 grams. any help here or no?
     
  8. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Probably not a coin. John Paul II was in Mexico fifteen years ago, and on that trip he also went to the city of Zacatecas. The "MCMMC" should be MCMXC = 1990 :) The "urbis fidelissimae" motto (very faithful city, or so) refers to that place.

    That "montes" inscription should actually read "montes sicut cera fluxerunt". That is from some psalm and means "mountains (will) melt like wax" ...

    Christian
     
  9. Spider

    Spider ~

    ohhh, so its a medal i guess. Will there be any value of any kind now or in the future?
     
  10. Spider

    Spider ~

    r we here stictly US coin collectors? or is going to be an unknown and unheard-off coin?
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I think chrisild has explained it as best he can Spider - it's not a coin. It's a medal issued to commemorate the Pope's visit. There may be a book out there someplace with more info - but I'm afraid I don't have it.
     
  12. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Well, I for one am in the EU (NW, Germany), and no, this is very unlikely to be a coin :) Some - mostly African and Oceanian - countries make money by issuing coins that hardly anybody in the country of "origin" has ever seen; they are almost exclusively sold to collectors through major dealers. This way the Pope may well be on coins "from" Liberia, Niue and the like. But in such a case you would at least see a country name and a face value - which I think is not the case here.

    With such modern medals, a value is hard to estimate. There may be collectors who are after such pieces, but I would not expect much ...

    Christian
     
  13. Spider

    Spider ~

    alright thanks man
     
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