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Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Larry Moran, Sep 1, 2008.

  1. Larry Moran

    Larry Moran Numismatographer

    This is a medal. I wonder if we could have a category added?

    Exonumia-- Tokens and Medals

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  3. kidromeo

    kidromeo I M LEGEND

    I double that....Too many Tokens and Medals are making their way to World and ancient coin section, we certainly need a dedicated category for Exonumia.
    BTW nice medal.
     
  4. Larry Moran

    Larry Moran Numismatographer

    Thanks, kidromeo. Man, do you have a pucker. That's a great avatar.

    I just got home from the golf course. Playing with my wife, we played early so it was not crowded and slow, I shot 38-33=71 with help of a 50-foot eagle putt from 8' feet off the green. The 38 was not so good but the back nine was great. I was once a golf professional for several years, then retired from pro golf to go into teaching, etc.

    I have a friend who is from India. Though not much of a golfer himself, for years he ran the annual golf outing/tournament for a rapid transit railcar maintenance facility in Skokie IL. Some of the brass from the Merchandise Mart would play. To make a long story short, I won the tournament a few times, but one year in accepting my award I took time to thank my friend Joe Puthumana for all his years of service to CTA golfers.

    I told the folks that Joe didn't play much golf since he came to the United States, but that he had been a expert golfer back in India, where they played golf while riding elephants. ; )

    Joe began to actually play golf after that and played in the tournament each year. : )

    Back to tokens... I ordered five new old tokens last night. I should have some photos soon.
     
  5. kidromeo

    kidromeo I M LEGEND

    Thanks for the compliment Larry:hail:.
    Sounds like you had a wonderful day playing golf. I'm more into motorsports. Good to know a golf celebrity:bow: though.
    Your Indian friend played a different kind of sport; not golf; but Polo, created by British people in Imperial India traditionally played in horseback but people in south India play by riding elephants:eek:. Polo's history is related to my town as the world's first Polo club and ground was in Silchar, Assam:cool:.
    I personally like tokens and medals but don't collect them as all my hobby funds are gobbled either by coins or stamps.:mouth:
     
  6. kidromeo

    kidromeo I M LEGEND

    PS. I asked Doug, our admin to move this thread coz I thought your suggestion should be checked by all CTers.
     
  7. Larry Moran

    Larry Moran Numismatographer

    I collect large cents but gave up since I find no better ones on ebay than what I have, and the years I don't have never seem to come to auction. So at much more reasonable cost, I began to collect Patriotic Civil War Tokens and now am also delving into the CWT Store Cards.

    The 'fact' that Joe was a great golfer in India was a JOKE. Everybody laughed hard but Joe laughed hardest and longest. And I know it was that instance that motivated him to begin to play golf himself. It's a nice game to play with folks that laugh with you. : )

    I went and looked through a couple of pages on your coins site. Cool. You have a lot of nice examples and some coins are in very high grades. I see also that you sell coins. I have a secret love for a certain period of quattrino and quattrini coins from Tuscany. I have a silvered one in AU-UNC, and several others from EF to AU. And I could be very interested in any really artsy coin, token, or medal, like cathedral interiors. I don't yet own any of those but hope to some day.

    It seems that most quattrinis are sold and buyers do not have any idea about how to grade those coins and pay a lot for a lot of junk. But, when I can recognize weakly struck areas on a coin and determine that there really isn't much wear, I find some nice coins now and again. : )

    Folks from Italy will stalk ebay items and offer to buy if you cancel the auction, or add Italy to your shipping list. I have a shipping list of the United States only. i've sold a good number of coins on ebay and have a 100% feedback rating. But, any seller on ebay now is very likely to encounter some dolts that will claim they didn't receive a coin, get a refund, keep the coin and give the seller negative feedback. They may be the same trolls that hack into accounts, stalk people on discussion boards, and sell Chinese counterfeits at steep discounts, advertising with photos of coins marked "COPY" and then sending coins with no such markings. So I've stopped selling. ebay doesn't want us unless we sell a few million dollars worth of coins every month or year.

    I once said on a discussion board that with the escalating fees, nobody can make any money if they pay a normal amount for their product. Sellers selling fakes can afford the bay and PayPal fees, because they pay so little for their products and counterfeit coins. ebay actually supports those sellers (in disputes) over honest, small time hobbyists and would-be entrepeneurs. ebay's president can't talk honestly. Every word out of his mouth is some non-descript corporate line gobbledygook. Every word he says about good things for small sellers is a fabrication along the same lines, while implementing things in an opposite (anti small seller) manner.

    I'll talk about some alternatives to ebay in my next test post. This will only be available for a week. I like that. : )
     
  8. Larry Moran

    Larry Moran Numismatographer

    I've seen blujay and coinzip and everything there is way ovepriced.

    We need a site that some seller starts who offers fair value and if he sold dirt cheap for awhile, he'd attract a lot of others. Many would see his success and the reason for it. He'd be unique in all the world. ; )

    People would catch on, imho. : )

    But ll I want to do is continue to have Uncle Sam buy me CWT's. Good old Uncle Sam. LOL

    Have you seen of any sites that are selling coins at reasonable cost??? ebay is very limited now.
    A few outstanding toned coins and that's about it. There are a few nice CWT's but most of them are slabbed making them somewhat bothersome to photograph.
     
  9. kidromeo

    kidromeo I M LEGEND

    Well actually I used to sell my surplus stuff in ebay to fund my hobby related buying but now I don't partly because of the facts you mentioned and partly because I have now developed a network of worldwide trade partners. Now I only buy from ebay's Indian portal and most of the stuff in my collection comes as swap with friends from different countries.
     
  10. kidromeo

    kidromeo I M LEGEND

    Most of Coin Talk members recommend Heritage Auctions for fair deals (www.ha.com).
     
  11. Larry Moran

    Larry Moran Numismatographer

    My only Indian coin may be my little horse coin AU-UNC, it is very nice, sized similarly to a U.S. small cent or a Civil War Token.

    Heritage may be good for some folks but the lug they charge is a bit much. Maybe the small sellers think they can charge Heritage-like prices. LOL
     
  12. kidromeo

    kidromeo I M LEGEND

    I guess you were talking about this coin:D
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    If you want some free modern Indian stuff try out your luck
    Here; my sponsored contest.
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Hi Larry....always good to have another exonumia person on the boards. I've been known to dabble a little myself.
     

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  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Hmmmm - thought you said -

    That's what Heritage is. A seller that offers fair value. As for that buyer's fees they charge, you buyers fees anywhere and everywhere that you buy a coin. You just don't know that you are because the sellers lump that fee into their total sales price.

    A fair price for a coin is just that - a fair price. And that price includes everything, buyer's fees, shipping costs, insurance costs and the cost of the coin itself.

    Brick and mortar coin shops have 20% + markups plus risks. Ebay and other internet auction sites have their fees plus the risks you take. Heritage has a buyer's fee and no risk.

    Seems like a no brainer to me.
     
  15. walterallen

    walterallen Coin Collector

    Larry,

    I did some research on your medal and found: 1. Its a memorial medal 2. It was sculpted by Ralph J. Menconi. Menconi also did the inaugural medal.

    I didn't find any sites advertising this particular medal, but there are other JFK memorial medals out there.

    I did come across a bad picture of both the Menconi inaugural and memorial coins together in a case. Your coins obverse looked like the memorial even though was not clear. There were no pictures of the reverse to see to ensure the coins were the same.

    I grew up in the sixties and remember our countries love for JFK. I like your memorial medal. Google Ralph J. Menconi, you'll see he was well know.

    Keep on Collecting!!!

    Allen
     
  16. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    Hi Larry

    You have seen this one before, I guess.

    But you said medals, so I'll comply;)

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  17. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    That's what I was thinking about yours, Larry !

    J-??? :confused:
     
  18. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    "I second that emotion..." Smokey Robinson
     
  19. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    Hmmm.....I must admit to mixed emotions on the topic of a separate category for tokens, etc. While it would give them the recognition that they deserve, I wonder if many would visit to see what's there.

    When I post a new piece, I like to provide a little of the history surrounding that particular token. I do this for my own pleasure, but also to draw others into the craftmanship and compelling history surrounding the piece. Thus, I think more eyeballs will see my post if I put in in the Coin Chat area rather than World Coin forum.

    On the other hand, as we seem to be getting more and more traffic, my thread might last a little longer if it's in a dedicated forum.

    :eek:dd: Call me bipolar!
     
  20. Larry Moran

    Larry Moran Numismatographer

    Hi, Svein. Wow, I like your medal and the photos are great. It's a beauty and photos reveal much detail as well as the artistry of the design. Cathedral is a hit, too. I really like the amount of lighting over the entire piece. Thanks. : )
     
  21. Larry Moran

    Larry Moran Numismatographer

    Hey, 900...

    It's a J-319 Three Cent Pattern Restrike.
     
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