This coin is perhaps a little bigger than a 20th century shilling. I'm not sure which side is up or how to read the date, but judging from when William and Mary reigned I feel like it's 1693. This time period is outside of my knowledge area so I'd appreciate any help IDing it and possible value.
Yes 1693 Shilling. The date is around the center in a circle. Very cool! I have a William crown but I would like a coin with the both of them. https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide...ng-km-480-1692-1693-cuid-1160405-duid-1328694
If there were anyone on this forum, I'd ask in regarding the potential value and grade of this coin I'd suggest consulting with @PaddyB .
That is for sure an enviable junk box find. I haven't found anything that good for what you paid in at least a year.
Hi Dragon, so considering whether GB did coin alignment or medal alignment in those years, start with the obverse in it's obvious correct position and then use the correct alignment to either "flip" the coin (top to bottom) or "turn" the coin (left to right). That will give you the correct alignment for the reverse. For the year, look at the juncture of where the corners of the 4 shields almost touch. You'll see a number at each place, though one of them is hard to read, I see a 1, a 6 or 9, and a 3. Using the info that you've already deduced "..judging from when William and Mary reigned I feel like it's 1693.", try to figure out what that unreadable (to me) number is. Here is a 1693 GB Shilling on NGC : great-britain-shilling-km-480-1692-1693-cuid-1160405-duid-1328694 and here is the same coin on Numista : pieces27951.html Neither page details the alignment with arrows , but from the photos if you turn the coin until the numeral 1 is in the top left corner, that should be the correct alignment. The coins were only made in 1692 and 1693, so of course yours is 1693. Good Luck and what a nice coin!!
Silver value on your coin, as per Numista, is $3.08. Book value, as per NGC, is $100.00 in VG. Personally, since I buy mostly for silver value with only some concern for numismatic value, and considering it's size and condition, but that it's *only* a 2 year coin, I would give between $5 and $10 for the coin. I think you would be hard-pressed to find someone to give you much more than $20, and that NGC $100 really seems far-fetched, but that's just me. With coins, I'm always concerned with "If I had to sell it today, what could I get for it?" , and somewhere around melt is usually the answer.
Sometimes GB was pretty haphazard with the alignment with these older coins. I've got a Cromwell-era coin that the faces are at some crazy diagonal compared to each other. But at least the design on that one is unambiguous as to which way is "up."
If it's worth what it looks like it might be it could be my best find ever. I love this coin shop but their pricing is all over the place. Like most they don't specialize in world coins so it almost seems like they're guessing sometimes. I see coins worth 50 cents in the $5 bin and sometimes coins like this way underpriced. I also got a lot of nice silver priced based on melt too, so I'm pretty happy today.
Thanks. I just hadn't had a chance to look it up or anything. All four numbers are legible in hand but the one just didn't scan well.
You think like the coin shop people do apparently. I'm pretty sure I could do better than that but this is my only coin of this type so I'm planning to hold on in any case.
Personally, I don't sell anything, I only collect, and actually, hoard might be the better word, since I'm mostly interested in silver value. Some of those numbers are my personal thoughts and some (the large one) were quotes from NGC. I didn't see a book value from Numista. Most people I talk to say that NGC prices are over rated. I buy mostly on eBay. You could search the coin on eBay's completed and sold listings and find out what other, similar coins have recently sold for. That's just more info to include in your thought processes. You wrote " You think like the coin shop people do apparently. " I don't know what you mean by that, but the way I think is to get the most silver, for the lowest price, that I can get. I'm not a coin collector, per se, I collect silver of all types, coins, flatware, art, etc.. If I get a good deal, ASW wise, on a coin, then any Numismatic value is just a bonus. BTW, when I called on you the other day about Chopmarks on an 8R Spanish coin, it was because, for some reason, I was under the impression that you had some experience with chop marked coins. I can not now figure out why I thought that. I thought for sure I had seen a post from you about either Chops, or 8R coins, or Oriental coins. Either way, I apologize for calling on you. Anyway, Good Luck with your new coin and anything you do with it.
What I meant by "you think like the coinshop people" is just that you said you'd pay $5 or $10 for it and that's what they were charging. As far as the chopmarks, no problem. I'm always glad if someone thinks I'm a good resource for something. That one just doesn't happen to be an area I've spent time with. No problem at all.
Apologies for the delay and thank you for the tag. Yes, as all previous posts, it is 1693 shilling. The alignment is correct and for this date the only variation recorded in Spink is 9 over 0 in the date - I can't see if that is there. (This arrangement of numbers proved very tricky for the die engravers and there are numerous upside down errors on the 1692.) I would say the Numista price is about right. Two have sold in the UK in the last few months in similar condition in the £90 to £100 range. One in nVF (UK grading) for £365. It is an attractive coin and hard to get for the shilling or monarch collectors. At $10 the bargain of the year! BTW I was also tagged on the 8R with chop marks. Again, not my area but no problem. I think you may have been thinking of one of the other Paddys on this forum?
