1984 lincoln cent missing copper layer, have 2

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  1. Joy Matherne

    Joy Matherne Pro life for coins...

    I have two of these they are both 1984. 20-03-04 13:37:27.png 20-03-04 13:37:54.png 20-03-04 13:36:15.png 20-03-04 13:36:37.png
     
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  3. Mountain Man

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  4. GH#75

    GH#75 Trying to get 8 hours of sleep in 4. . .

    Sure looks like it is missing to me. There is still mint luster - as far as I can tell from the photos - and that means it is not dipped in acid.
     
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  6. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    They look like they've been played with -

    The color in the photo isn't accurate, I'm guessing.
    Can you take another photo of them next to a normal
    post-83 cent? We'd need to see the comparison to
    gauge the accuracy of the color.

    As a general rule:

    If it's bright and shiny, it's been re-plated.

    If it's dark, dull, and grey, it's been de-plated.

    I can't tell for sure about your cent, but it doesn't
    look like an original un-plated zinc cent, based on the
    color and staining, etc.
     
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  7. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Hi Joy, Did these unplated coins come with all the off-center struck and clipped planchet coins you recently purchased? I note that they are all 1984-D coins.
    If so I think that your unplated coins are genuine and hold a greater premium than the other CP's & OCS.
     
  8. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I'm no expert like @Fred Weinberg but if you got these from the same place you got all the other cool mint errors, I would have a good feeling that they are real.
     
  9. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Just asking' for another set of photos with true color.

    Take 'em next to a normal AU/UNC copper-coated zinc cent.

    I haven't said they're bad, I just said the color doesn't seem right,
    and I'd like a comparison photo with a normal, mostly Red, cent.

    ....and, I bought thousands of errors from good sources who had
    access to to new coins, and used coins, and these sources many times
    put in de-plated or re-plated cents in a group, thinking they were real.
     
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  10. Joy Matherne

    Joy Matherne Pro life for coins...

    Yes
     
  11. Joy Matherne

    Joy Matherne Pro life for coins...

    I did I've bought a lot of them from the son of man that passed away
     
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  12. Joy Matherne

    Joy Matherne Pro life for coins...

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  13. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Getting artistic now are we? :p
    I think that unplated is the real deal.
     
  14. Joy Matherne

    Joy Matherne Pro life for coins...

    Thought yall needed a flower
     
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  15. Joy Matherne

    Joy Matherne Pro life for coins...

    And the son had to be 65ish I didnt ask how old his dad was, but assuming he had to be 85ish
     
  16. Joy Matherne

    Joy Matherne Pro life for coins...

    There's no telling when his dad acquired these coins, I'd like to think early
     
  17. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    That it very cool that you got them from a private source. Makes for the best chance that the are genuine unplated cents.
     
  18. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    The two light-colored unplated cents are missing the copper layer, but they have been altered via de-plating. No Mint luster, lack of details - an easy call there.

    Weighing them won't tell you anything as the plating is so slight that many unplated cents weigh the same as plated ones.
     
  19. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    As for the 1985-D, it too is altered. Observe the coin Joy sent me. Notice the copper showing through the coin in front of Abe's face.

    It's weight of 2.1 grams can be explained by being acid dipped, then either plated or stained to give it its color.
    1985 D 1c altered closeup copper.jpg 1985 D 1c altered obv.jpg 1985 D 1c altered rev.jpg
     
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  20. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your respected opinion about these coins.
     
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  21. Joy Matherne

    Joy Matherne Pro life for coins...

    Thank you so much Joe
     
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