Offical Ref # ??

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Steven Michael Gardner, Mar 3, 2020.

  1. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    I seem to have gathered quite a bit of information on this coin, and I do love the beauty of the sculpting, however I have not come by any official Reference or ID # on this one, there are many various Dionysos / Hercules made over the centuries, I guess I just find this one unique because I have it??? I would really also like to know the mint Date for this particular coin, as I have seen a multitude of dates thrown around.... This is what I have right now Below....

    Greek city of Perinthus in Thrace
    Autonomous Issue under the Romans
    Bronze 20mm (4.49 grams) (???Struck circa 100-200 A.D.???)
    Head of Dionysos facing right wearing ivy wreath.
    ΠΕΡΙΝΘΙΩΝ, the "Farnese" Hercules standing, head
    to right, resting hand on hip and placing left on club set on
    rock; draped lion skin beside club.
    * Numismatic Note: Rare, possibly unpublished type.

    The model for this reverse type is the famed marble Farnese Hercules statue that was discovered in the excavations of the Btahs of Caracalla in 1546. It stood for over 200 years in the Palazzo Farnese in Rome, from whence it gained its name, and was moved to Naples in 1787, where it is now displayed in the Museo Archeologico Nazionale. The statue is thought to be an enlarged copy sculpted in early 3rd Century AD by Glykon based on an original by Lysippos dating to the 4th century BC. The statue depicts Hercules at rest after completing his labors: he is shown standing with his club, draped in the skin of the Nemean lion, set upright on a rock, propped under his left arm supporting the weight of his muscular frame, his head slightly nodding forward in a weary attitude, and he holds the apples of the Hesperides behind his back in his right hand. The sculpture was apparently well-liked by the Romans, and copies have been found in Roman palaces and gymnasiums.
     

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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That has apparently been published and examples have been recently sold at auction. See Schönert, Perinth 161ff.
     
  4. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I am hoping to get a time period on this coin also...
     
  5. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    It may be very hard to narrow it down, archaeologically. This dealer cites Schönert as the only reference and gives a date of "2nd-3rd Cent. AD," presumably dated by Schönert. That may be as narrow a time frame as you will find. Ancient numismatics -- particularly on anonymous issues -- can be a very uncertain field.
     
  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    This dealer, well-known for making outlandish claims and asking outrageous prices, assigns a date of AD 100. I think he's pulling this number out of thin air, because he doesn't cite any resources. He is mistaken in stating, "Rare, possibly unpublished type."
     
  7. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your insight & effort..!
    Steven
     
  8. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

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