1887 Morgan $1 Double Right Wing & CD PCGS MS62

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  1. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member

    Just bought this beauty of line tell me what yea think... and there is really nice doubling on the coin
    Bob
     

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  3. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    How about a bigger picture of just the coin .
    rzage
     
  4. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member

  5. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    That's one nice 62 ask me it should go at least 63 maybe 64 nice catch .
    rzage
     
  6. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member

    yea dosent quite look like a 62 to me
     
  7. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member

    also i dont know much about the error can anyone fill me in?
     
  8. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    Nice coin.

    When the dies strike without a coin in the chamber part of the obverse die is transferred to the reverse die and visa versa. The subsequent coins to be struck will show these marks (die clash marks).
     
  9. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member

    why didnt pcgs designate a error coin or is it to insignificant to label as an error? And in advance thanks for all the help for everyone
     
  10. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

  11. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member

    Ok i might send it back in for a higher grade but i will post pics when the coin comes in
     
  12. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I need to see bigger pictures before making any comment. Sorry. :(
     
  13. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member

  14. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Looks like the typical PCGS AU 62. Looks like a VAM of some type, not an "error" per-se. Hopefully one of the VAM guys will come along and help with the value -- not my area....Mike
     
  15. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    I don't think this coin is a VAM. The clashed die is not enough and the seller is very good at looking up vams.
     
  16. becky62

    becky62 Collector

    I buy from this seller every now & then. I like his coins. His prices are decent and he's good at pointing out clashes and doubling (and showing good pics of them). You can go here: http://www.vamworld.com/ to look Morgans & Peace dollars up, check to see if they are attributed VAMs or just close to being one.I've learned quite a bit on that site.

    What is a VAM? http://www.vamworld.com/VAM


    The TPGs will add the attribute to the tag but they want $$ to do so.
     
  17. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member

    Here a couple of pics of the morgan Silver dollar. Its A very nice coin. there not the best pic since they come of my phone but you def can see the luster of the coin in the pics
    Enjoy
    Bob
     

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  18. nugget_hill

    nugget_hill Senior Member

    G'Day mate,There is more than clash marks on the coin and with the doubling I would submit it for a VAM number,I did look at VAM world but couldn't find a match sorry I'm not much help so if it is a VAM the graders should know which one it is,regards Harry
     
  19. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member

    how much would it effect the value if i resubmited it? Is worth it?
     
  20. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Every Morgan or Peace dollar has a VAM number, even the most common die pair. It is a nice coin, and I would not reslab unless you become convinced it is a rarer VAM, such as on the Top 100, Top 50, or HOT 40 VAM list. If it is there, and you want to sell it, then re-slab. If you plan to keep it no matter, put the vam number on a little label and attach it to the current slab. To conclude what VAM it is, you need to use a scope or loupe and compare the points with the Vamworld listings, or pay a TPG to grade and VAM it.

    I am uncertain about the doubling you see. With out better views, it looks more like "machine" doubling. There is a sticky in the error subforum section about this type of doubling if it is unfamiliar to you. Nice coin for the price!

    Jim
     
  21. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    "Every Morgan or Peace dollar has a VAM number" Not true.

    From vamworld"s site. "The goal of the VAM system is to number and catalog every known die variety by date and mint mark. To this end, every Morgan dollar in existence is either already a VAM or should be a VAM. This is a continuous process, and new varieties are continually discovered and added to the list"

    Your coin may or may not have a vam number. Don't confuse coin varieties with die varieties. A clashed die in itself doesn't constitute a vam number.
     
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