Purchased a Roll of Silver Eagles and this was in there

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Misty1, Aug 25, 2008.

  1. Harksaw

    Harksaw Member

    What do these coins normally get laminated with? I thought they were all silver.
     
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  3. Misty1

    Misty1 New Member

    The area in question is NOT actually black. I know the pictures are not that good, but best I can describe it looks look a shiny silver under neath.

    GDJMSP. No the area does not stick above the rest of the coin. It is actually below the surface

    SilverClown-- I dont have a scale.

    Actually I do not believe a Silver eagle is 100% silver, I think that is why it is .999

    Thanks for all the feedback
     
  4. Misty1

    Misty1 New Member

    Had wife pick up a digital scale
    The scale screen reads

    Grams=31
    Ounces = 1, sometimes 1.1
     
  5. donnyb

    donnyb Member

    I find it difficult to believe a solid silver would laminate. I know there are all kind of senario's, but in reality solid siliver don't seperate in layers.
     
  6. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    I think Hobo and GDJMSP are correct with Strike Through. Coin is solid silver mixed with .07% copper. The info. below are taken from the sources listed. I think it's still a great find as you don't see many errors with the ASE.

    I'm am sure GD and others could comment on how the surface might change in appearance when there is a significant strike through. Much probably depends on what the material is between the blank and the die.

    Coin Facts - Silver Eagle has a face value of $1 and contains exactly one ounce of pure silver in an alloy of 99.93% silver and .07% copper.

    US Mint Web Site - The American Eagle Silver Proof Coin contains 99.9% silver. The one ounce coin has a $1 face value and is 1.598 inches in diameter, contains 0.999 silver troy ounces and weighs 1.0000 troy ounces

    1 troy ounce = 31.1034768 grams

    Good Luck!
     
  7. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    These coins are not "laminated". This particular is a homogenous mixture of silver. Maybe you are confusing "clad coins" with "laminated coins".

    It may be hard to believe but it is true. There are a number of causes of laminations. (I really dislike the term "lamination". I think "delamination" would be a much more accurate term.) A couple of these causes are impurities in the planchet and improper mixing. I'm sure there are others but I cannot think of them at the moment.

    Do a search for coins on eBay or Heritage using the key word "lamination" or "laminated". There should be plenty of them for you to study.
     
  8. Misty1

    Misty1 New Member

    I'm looking to submit this coin as a mint error to either ngc or pcgs, which one is the better of the two? I read on the websites you need to be a member to submit coins, is there any way around joing?
     
  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Join the ANA, you'll get the privilege of submitting to NGC....Hobo, jump in and help me here (Hobo is our ANA specialist).
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You can also take the coin to a dealer, many of them are affiliated with NGC, PCGS or both. You pay the dealer a small fee plus the grading fee and he sends it in for you.

    I'm still gonna go with the strike through - may not be embedded though based on the additional description.
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'll go with strike through as well. Strange coin but really cool.
     
  12. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    ANA membership entitles you to submit coins to NGC. PM me and I can tell you the benefits of ANA membership and help you join if you so wish.
     
  13. jeankay

    jeankay Coin Hoarder

    Hi Misty1,
    Great find! And beautiful coin.
    Welcome to the forum!
    There is absolutely nothing wrong with your picture... except it might make some of us envious about your talent in photographing coins. Even though coins are a rather stationary subjects, getting non-glaring clear photographs is not as easy as some would think.
    Stick around and show us more coins... and have fun here at CT.
    jeankay
     
  14. Misty1

    Misty1 New Member

    Here are some better pictures
     

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  15. donnyb

    donnyb Member

    It is a strike thru, had 2 certified by NGC as errors sold last night on Coin Country for $200. each, although not a tenth the size of the photo's of your coin.
     
  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins


    Coin Country....Donny.....say it isn't so:goofer:
     
  17. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    I know this has been rehashed and rehashed on here, but can someone explain the difference between a strike through and lamination defect? I looks like something else has imprinted itself in the delamenated area or am I just seeing things. THanks.
     
  18. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    a strike through is when something cloth, metal, wood, etc. gets on the planchet then the coin is struck. The item can either stay attached or like in this case fall off. A lamination is when a piece of the planchet peels off either before or after it is struck.
     
  19. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    Thanks!!!! :thumb:
     
  20. Haleiwa

    Haleiwa New Member

    Were these coins suppose to be UNC or AU when you purchased them? Usually these kinds of coins are tubed in the green cap tube if they're not individually slabbed.
     
  21. Haleiwa

    Haleiwa New Member

    It also looks like this coin was coated or silver clad and a piece chipped off. Even the darkness under the chip looks odd and doesn't appear to have the same carving as the surface of the coin should have. Is it counterfeit?
     
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