Should I clean it? Rare German coin!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by kden, Mar 1, 2020.

  1. kden

    kden Active Member

    This is my Germany 1930 J minted 10 reichspfennig. As you can see it has some black something on it. I’m not very experienced so I’m not sure if I should deal with this because you can also see the coin is in fairly decent condition despite it. I would love to see the whole beauty of this coin.
     

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  3. oldfinecollector

    oldfinecollector Well-Known Member

    Hi never clean a coin that the coin collector moto. It will loose value and collectors tend to avoid to buy them.
     
  4. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    It could be grease and as it isn't an ancient coin and it is aluminium-bronze, I would wash it with warm water and a mild soap, and if the black something doesn't go away, I would use distilled water dips.
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    No, and no.
    • It is not rare (1,637,000 of that date were struck and it catalogs for $2.00 in Fine)
    • and you shouldn't clean it.
     
  6. paddyman98

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  7. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    It is often a misconception that old equates to rare. Often with coins that is not the case. You do have a collectible coin there. Most Numismatists would prefer to see your coin as it is. In its natural state. Once a coin is cleaned it becomes a pariah to most seasoned collectors.
     
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  8. alurid

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  9. Lawtoad

    Lawtoad Well-Known Member

    2 x 2 holders are inexpensive. I would invest in various sizes or non-toxic 2 x 2 flips. The 2 x 2 your coin is in is a little too small. I agree. Cleaning coins is a no no.
     
  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    No, you need to leave as is.
     
  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    ...only if you can tell that it was cleaned. In this case, cleaned would be "harshly cleaned" and not "conserved". "A rose is a rose is a rose..."
     
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  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    If the state of the coin bothers you, just follow some safe practices in improving its appearance. Avoid rubbing or scrubbing on the coin. Use only clean, pure solvents to remove surface contaminants. Here are a couple of suggestions: 1) wash your hands before dealing with the coin 2) rinse the coin under hot running water (be careful not to let it go down the drain...been there done that) 3) always pat or blot the coin dry, never rub 4) a rinse or soak in PURE acetone (not fingernail polish remover unless it says 100% pure acetone). These steps can be repeated if they seem to be helping.
     
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  13. oldfinecollector

    oldfinecollector Well-Known Member

    You don’t need so much experience to see that a coin is cleaned even very pro cleaning leave hairlines, specific toning not natural.

    A professional is not only liable for authenticity but always to des descriptions so it is illegal for a pro not to tell about cleaning, tooling...when selling a coin. Refuse it and ask for reimbursement. Fake can be missed it is human , tooled sometimes but a pro that don’t tell a coin is cleaned know what he do this is dishonest and put it in a black list and advise other collectors.
     
  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    OK, I won't clean coins, I will instead conserve them! :)
     
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  15. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    With a low value coin, why not clean it??
     
  16. oldfinecollector

    oldfinecollector Well-Known Member

    Never mind to me with such low value coin indeed do some cleaning experience and it can be part of a kind of fun . But anyway at least know as a general principle that a cleaned coin is damaged in some way. Try if you really want it gentle cleaning as explain with water but avoid acid on cleaning.

    I prefer you do that on such a coin rather that a scarce one...
     
  17. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    So, do you collect only ancients that have never been cleaned? :)
     
  18. oldfinecollector

    oldfinecollector Well-Known Member

    I collect toned ones and nice patinas but surely as said Doug some were cleaned a long time ago but antic that have lost all patina I avoid. I know at origin 90 % of antics were in soil.
     
  19. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    All I am trying to say is that some cleaning is acceptable, either for ancients or for modern coins. You just have to be careful and know what you are doing. Happy collecting!
     
  20. by all means clean it. I find that a good stout brillo pad works best on German coins. Especially those bearing the swastika.
     
  21. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Please don't do this
     
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