1837 Matron Head Large Cent

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  1. cherylkubucko

    cherylkubucko Grandma Froggie

    Ok, this coin is not a proof, It has marks on it. Need help in the type and worth. Thanks
     

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  3. cherylkubucko

    cherylkubucko Grandma Froggie

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    This is not my coins it belongs to my son in law. It has been in his family for a long time. The coins have been passed down to him from way back.
     

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  4. cherylkubucko

    cherylkubucko Grandma Froggie

    One more the type would be
     

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  5. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Plain cords variety. Well-rounded bust, N7 also the dot in Cent. Pretty common coin. Price would be ~$20.00 - $25.00
     
  6. cherylkubucko

    cherylkubucko Grandma Froggie

    Thanks Jim M for the infor. Cheryl
     
  7. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Still a nice problem free almost 171 year old copper , in very nice condition , suprised it's that inexspensive .
    rzage
     
  8. cherylkubucko

    cherylkubucko Grandma Froggie

    You would think, it would be worth more. It is still nice, Thanks Cheryl
     
  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Cheryl, That is a very nice and fairly problem-free example of the date, and one I would be proud to own. Well, well above average...Mike
     
  10. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    p.s. I'd value the coin between $75 and $100.
     
  11. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Yes - that is one nice copper.
     
  12. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    I just went back to the greysheet to see about the pricing. I have this coin at VF. Greysheet list it at $52.00. I went down the F column initially sorry for the mistake. Yep I do make them, I blame it on my trifocals and fat fingers. Greysheet list this coin in Fine at $28.00. Dealers generally pay, at least from what I have found about 20-25% back of these prices depending on the eye appeal and the commonitity ( is that a word?) of the piece.
     
  13. cherylkubucko

    cherylkubucko Grandma Froggie

    Thanks everyone for you opinions. I would like to have this coin too. But it has to go back to the son-in-law. It has been it the family for many years. He will put it back in the gun safe. Thans again. Cheryl
     
  14. The Virginian

    The Virginian Senior Member

    Does he have it in a 2x2 or something to protect it? If not offer to holder it for him to keep it from getting more handling wear.
     
  15. cherylkubucko

    cherylkubucko Grandma Froggie

    Does he have it in a 2x2 or something to protect it? If not offer to holder it for him to keep it from getting more handling wear.
    I like that.

    His coins are in a kitchen storage bag then put in a canvas bag, So I will put the coin in a 2X2 for him. Cheryl
     
  16. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    That puppy deserves an airtite. :)
     
  17. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Heck yeah ! Nice coin ! :thumb:

    On this coin, I can't tell the difference between N-7 and N-8 (both R-1). Noyes says the difference is not the punched die per se, but rather the die state (odd). EDS (dies scratches) is N-8, LDS (heavily lapped) is N-7.

    Even a nice VF like this is too worn for me to tell the difference.
     
  18. cherylkubucko

    cherylkubucko Grandma Froggie

    Thanks for ya'll help. Cheryl
     
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    When Newcomb wrote his book he thought the N-7 and N-8 were from different die pairs. Later research showed that the N-7 was actually just a late die state of N-8 and N-7 has since been de-listed. The coin from the original post is a "N-7". Tye late state can be determined by the fact that the denticals especially on the reverse are almost gone.
     
  20. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Thanks, Conder !

    Question : did the "later research" come after Noyes' publication ? I presume so, since he still lists N-7 and N-8. Is there a newer edition of the Noyes book laying this out ?

    I also presumes delisting N-7 means we treat this variety like most others - die differences as made are varieties, die states are not.
     
  21. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    This is an intriguing coin.

    Usually, when there is a design change, it is very abrupt. Decisive. For instance, Large 1c -> Flying Eagle -> Indian Head -> Lincoln. There's no confusing them; each design looks radically different from its predecessor.

    But here's what's cool about these 1836-1839 Large Cents : the change from Matron Head to Braided Hair is gradual. It slowly evolves from the 1816 look to the 1840's look.

    In fact, this 1837 looks more like the Braided Hair than the Matron to me.

    I think it would be interesting to collect a variety of Large Cents in the period 1836-1839 just to see that evolution.
     
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