old coins

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by mr22601, Mar 19, 2005.

  1. mr22601

    mr22601 New Member

    i have 3 of these coins would like to know if they are worth anything,, the top left coin is a *8R.C 1881.J.D.10Ds 20Gs are the markings on the front, on back an eagle with REPUBLICA MEXICANA. the top right coin is 1809,king george im thinking from england ,, the lower coin is an 1834 im thinking maybe russian it has several markings on the outside ring not sure what the coin is ,, anyone with knowledge of thier value would be strongly appreciated http://www.ofoto.com/ShareLandingSi...t_signin=BrowsePhotos.jsp?showSlide=true&Ux=0
     
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  3. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Welcome to the forum mr22601.
    Unfortunately, the website you have chosen for posting your picture doesn't allow sufficient magnification to let anyone but an expert in the particular series, or with the eyes of a hawk, from identifying and roughly grading your coins.

    Your 1881 Mexican 8 Reales needs much closer examination to identify which of many mints it came from, or to estimate its value.

    There seems to be a problem with your English 3-pence. The Standard Catalog of World Coins doesn't list an 1809 mintage and the bust of George III on your coin more closely resembles the 18th century version of 1795 or 1800 than it does the earliest 19th century example of 1817, on which he is wearing a laurel wreath.

    I know nothing about your third coin.

    Please try retaking your photos, with separate pictures of each coin, cropped to eliminate the surroundings, and then attach them to a posting by using the "Manage Attachements" link at the bottom of the screen.
     
  4. mr22601

    mr22601 New Member

    i appologise for the poor pics but this forums file attachment will not let me download them it says its too big of a file the english coin front is fairly worn except for the face most of the letters are barely visable the date looks like it could be from 1800 the last number has a small spot on it the coins need to be cleaned but not knowing what im doing i prefer to just leave them alone ,i screwed up a 1776 quarter up bye trying to clean it , as for the mexican coin can you tell me where the mint mark is i can post what it says the mexican coin is in excellent condition for its age ,,,as far as my 3rd coin i can describe it ,,the side with the date ,,,a crown on the top in the center says MOHETA
    PYBAL under that it has __________ . __________ under that it has the date 1834 under that it has C.11.B,,,,,on the other side it has around the eagle thiers a * YNCTATO CEPEBPA 4 30AOTNKA 21 AOYR,,,,,,all the n's are backwardsand also some of the letters seem upsidedown in the center the eagle is 2 headedthe left foot is holding a sword of some sort and the right foot is holding a globe with a cross on top of it under the sword looks like a letter H under the globe is an upside down L in the center of the 2 headed eagle looks like a picture of a armored man on a horse,,,also on the outer rim of the coin is several markings of numbers letters and symbols
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    If you will email me the pics - I will be happy to post them for you so that perhaps we can help.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Here are the pics -

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    I enhanced the pics as best I could but I'm afraid I can add little other than what Roy has already said. I think the British item is a token - not a coin.
     
  7. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    I totally agree. There is way too little legend on the obverse.
     
  8. tonylynch

    tonylynch RMO Collector

    Basically what it is saying is that coin is a Ruble (Moneta Rubl' transliterized into the latin alphabet)

    Pure silver 4 zolotnika (this is a weight, no longer used) 21 shares

    I was able to find an fairly clear image from a pdf file.

    Tony
     

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  9. mr22601

    mr22601 New Member

    ty tony ,,, that was alot of help ,, it is an exact of my coin although mine seems in better condition,,, would you know the value of it by chance? when you say this is a weight did you mean its worthless other then holding down some paper???
     
  10. tonylynch

    tonylynch RMO Collector

    A measurement of weight equaling approximately 4.25 grams. As for its value, I really don't know. I just happen to speak some Russian. Here's a link to one being sold on eBay right now. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3393&item=3964988877&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

    Also has some really good images of it. Looking at that the letters under the date. Do you see something that looks like C.n.B? My guess is those would mean the coin was minted in Saint Petersburg.

    Tony
     
  11. mr22601

    mr22601 New Member

    yes those letters are thier under the date
     
  12. mr22601

    mr22601 New Member

    yes my mistake the english coin is an 1800
     
  13. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    The coin that looks like a British coin is actually a Demarary & Essequibo 3 Guilders,which was issued in 1813.Demarary & Essequibo became British
    Guiana in 1835,& gained independence in 1966 as the Dominion of Guyana.Guyana became a republic within the British Commonwealth in 1970.

    As to your Czarist Russian 1 Rouble coin,it was issued during the reign of Czar Nicholas I (ruled 1825-55).Czar Nicholas I was the Czar who began the Crimean War,& it was his son,Czar Alexander II (ruled 1855-81) who ended it.
     
  14. mr22601

    mr22601 New Member

    aidan ty for your reply
     
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