Fugio Cent - help with attribution and grade appreciated

Less competition is a good thing!

Ribbit

 

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Eduard: I think you and I have the same Fugio variety (16N - die cracks at 1:30 and 6:30)! Please see mine in my photo album link in my signature line. According to the definitive new Newman book, our coins are R3s.

 

What's the name of Newman's new book?

Ribbit

Ps: Heritage says R-4 on the 16-N but they aren't always right.

 

United States Fugio Coinage of 1787, Eric P. Newman, 2008

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=fugio&vci=53552

 

A 168 page book just on Fugios?

That's got to be quite extensive! :thumb: And a must have! Now just to set aside the money for it, instead of using it to buy more coins with. :goofer:

Ribbit

 

Hello Catbert, i have looked at your Fugio (and the other coins you have - nice!), and yes, i think you are right your Fugio seems to be the same variety as mine. That is a coincidence!
Even the surface colour is the same mine as mine (even if my photo doesn't show it).
Overall your coin is definitely nicer though. At least 10 or 15 grade points sharper
I saw your post when you got yours, and that is what got me thinking to dig mine out. Those Fugios are really nice coins.
Regards

 

Yes, but I didn't have the pictures, just text. That can be a big disadvantage. I had discarded the Obv 16 because my text description for it said the ornament between MINE and YOUR was over the right edge of the upright of the I and I felt it was further right than that. If I had had more experience with Fugios (or had plates) I might have known better. I had forgotten about the Notre Dame site. and didn't look there. (Once again not enough experience with colonials or I'm sure I would have thought to check there.)

Not that surprising. Pete Smith did a 50+ page work just on the 1794 starred reverse cent. Logies and Collins each did a 200+page book just on the 1794 dollar. Levi on the Confedrate Cent, 312 pages. There are several books like that out there that say a lot about just a small number of coins.

 

It is approximately 90% large pictures to delineate the numerous varieties and die states.

Also, thanks Eduard for your compliments. While I like my small collection, it seems insignificant compared to what collectors like Leadfoot and some of the other heavy hitters around here have. One can only dream!

 

I've been having some problems attributing, due to die states, so I gotta get that book.

I figure with only 24 known varieties, this is a good set to go after, although quite a few are very hard to come by but that makes it more fun (at least to me).

Ribbit

 

There are a few more varieties known now, (A new one was discovered just a few months ago.) but it is still pretty close to 24.

 

They'll need to do a new plate someday. The plates make it so easy to attribute these but if there are only a few extra ones, it won't be a big deal checking those on their own but do you know what their attribution number is?

Ribbit

 

No because I don't follow the Fugios closely. I would think the new Newman book is probably up to date with the possible exception of the most recent one.