Currently Running Ebay Auction Scams

I thought we could use a continuous thread for current ebay auctions that are in some way trying to scam the buyer. Could be counterfeits, altered coins, pretty much anything.

Here is a fake 1916-D Mercury Dime that someone is trying to pass off by placing it in a 2x2 holder and labeling it MS-63. Zero feedback as well.

Don't bid!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1916-D-mercury-...ryZ41091QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

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Pardon my ignorance, but I am still in the learning process, how can you tell that the coin fake?


stainless

 

When did they move China to Israel?
[or is this just for the Olympics?]

 

How about reporting it to ebay. Include your expertise and reasons for your comments so they can have something to go on for their ANA consultants. Complaining without taking action is counterproductive.

 

I do not think this thread is counterproductive. What happens if Ebay doesn't take the auction down?

 

I didn't say this thread is counterproductive. I said that complaining without taking action is counterproductive.

If you report it to ebay and they don't take it down, you'll at least have the satisfaction of having tried to protect an innocent buyer.

If you report it and ebay does take it down, you'll have the satisfaction of having protected innocent buyers.

If I had a clue as to why (you think) it's phony, I'd report it myself. Care to enlighten me?

Be proactive, not reactive.

 

can't say much from the pictures. It is reportable for using a numeric grade in the description, since it is not in an anointed holder, even if it is from the Holy Land.

 

that's fake!

 

You can use a numeric grade in the description but not in the title. The title simply says it's a nice coin.

The OP says "Here is a fake 1916-D Mercury Dime that someone is trying to pass off by placing it in a 2x2 holder and labeling it MS-63."

I'd like to know why it has been judged "fake". Come on OP; what's your answer?

 

With those pictures I don't think you can. And since you can't prove it is fake eBay will not pull the auction. Yo could tll them it's fake and have as credentials that you are the senior authentication expert at PCGS and I don't think they'd pull it. How can you cay what is wrong with it, when you can't really even see the diagnostic areas.

 

This is the precise reason the buyer took small pictures. Half of you here aren't ready to dismiss it as a counterfeit.

The shape of the date is entirely wrong, and far too bold. The reverse mintmark is entirely in the wrong position.

The cameo contrast seen on the obverse is a dead giveaway that it's fake. You should be able to tell this coin is fake within a second of looking at it.

I will promise that this coin is counterfeit, and I would be willing to put up any amount of money on it.

With the wealth of information on this board regarding counterfeits and scams, I am disappointed that anyone here would even consider the possibility that this coin is genuine. It is a large disappointment.

 

I have to agree, something doesn't ring true!! First he says he isn't a collector and has NO use for the coin BUT grades it MS-63 !!! Not only that his other dime (he also informs us it worth 10 cents) happens to be another rarity 1942 2/1 WWWWHHHAAATT!

 

Look I'm not saying it is fake or real, but I can't really see much at all from the pics.

Your claim about the date doesn't make sense, and the pictures are so bad I cannot even comprehend how you can see the mintmark. The so-called "cameo contrast" issue can be caused if the guy is standing over it while taking a picture.

Look logic would tell you it is 99.9% guaranteed to be fake, but IMO you cannot determine anything of significance from the pics. If you can.... your a better man than me, or you must have a magic magnifying glass that de-pixilates your computer screen.

I'm going to be honest... I have gotten some great deals on ebay from people who must have spent a few months on mars... It happens, but about as often as solar eclipses.

 

Not possible, no way is it genuine. The level of confidence is not 99.9% , it is 100%

The cameo contrast and look of the coin matches perfectly to well known counterfeits. They are blatantly easy to spot.

And when you say the pictures are too small to tell for sure, why do you think the seller took such small pictures? So people will ignore the fact it is a counterfeit, and they have it in their minds that it could still be real.

Rest assured, 100% counterfeit. Do some more ebay searching and you will find other counterfeits just like it. Take a look at the hundreds of genuine examples sold by heritage, they look completely different.

The lighting in the photograph has no bearing, this is a plain as day.

I don't have any special skills other than knowing what these types of counterfeits look like. Once you've seen a few, you know instantly when you spot another example.

If you are not convinced right now, keep an eye out for more counterfeits in the future, and you will be convinced at how I can tell for sure that this example is counterfeit.

 

All of you experts...please answer Anthony's' question. How is it fake? Small picture just doesn't cut it . Need more proof. China to Israel....no smokin' gun. What gives? Not that I'd put a bid in for this coin.

 

Save picture as, then blow up and crop. You'll see 100% it is the wrong mintmark position. Blurry for details, but position is enough to determine it's a fake.

That, and it just looks funny. I agree with Chris.

 

I should add that this is not my personal opinion, this example is clearly a well known counterfeit. Ask anyone with an average knowledge of the series, they will immediately proclaim this example is counterfeit. There is no room for questioning.

 

How about the fact that a genuine 1916-D sells for over $100 in P01 and $15,000 in MS63. Now honestly, if you had a $15K coin, would you sell it by listing it on E-Bay in a no reserve auction with those photos? If the seller was that stupid, it is my belief that someone would have already swindled the coin away from him.

If you need to examine the photos in depth to determine that it is counterfeit, then by all means, go ahead and waste your time. I wouldn't buy a raw 1916-D Mercury dime with someone else's money.

 

appreciate DavidH for correcting me on eBay coin selling policy. I was in error.

I don't feel comfortable outing this as a counterfeit based just on the pictures. They are simply too small, for me. Everything else about this auction simply screams SCAM!!

 

You forgot to mention the same seller's MS-63 1942/1 Mercury they have for sale:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1942-1-mercury-...ryZ41091QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

What are the odds a newbie on Ebay would have two high quality rare coins for sale and it's also their first items for sale on Ebay? The answer to that one is interesting because I see it quite often and usually it's a scam!

Ribbit