1829/7 Half Dollar

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Aaron Greenwood, Feb 13, 2020.

  1. Aaron Greenwood

    Aaron Greenwood New Member

    I just wanted some advice on if I should send this coin in to be graded or not. Im thinking yes but wanted to see what y'all would do. I do believe it's a 1829/7. The coin is in really good shape but I have no knowledge on this type. I've never purchased or owned one of these halfs so my opinion on condition really is kind of a guess. It has lines all running in the same direction on both the front and the back. Has this coin been cleaned or is that some kind of planchet/die/ mint issue? Oh and I don't have a pic of the edge lettering but it's messed up and something is wrong with it like overlapping of the words I think. I'll add the edge pics when i get a chance. Any input is greatly appreciated! Even if it's negative. At least I'll learn something from my mistake compared to making the same mistake over and over.. Thank you. 20200213_192642_capture(0).jpg 20200213_192601_capture.jpg 20200213_192701_capture.jpg 20200213_192639.jpg
     
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  3. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Unfortunately those are cleaning lines. Lots of meat on it though.

    1829/27 is correct. It is the O-101, with a curl base 2 punched over a square base 2, and 9 over 7 in the date. Large 5 on the 50 C. Not scarce, but a popular variety with collecters.

    It won't straight grade, I do not think certification will be of much benefit. It's fine in the airtite.

    Edit: Actually, if it was mine I'd store it in a Kraft envelope and let it tone a bit, over time. But that's just me.
     
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  4. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    +1. Those lines are scratches from a cleaning, lots of detail left though. As far as the edge lettering, it was pretty common for there to be some overlap, the edge lettering was applied with a castaing machine, and sometimes the dies would slip.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castaing_machine
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not worth grading as it has been cleaned and those lines prove it. It is the overdate variety. Welcome to CT.
     
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  6. Aaron Greenwood

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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Nice coin, but harshly cleaned/polished, unfortunately.

    I agree with @longshot here. I'd leave it out, and perhaps put it in a kraft paper envelope over time, to let it retone somewhat. It will never be straight-gradeable (and I wouldn't waste the money trying), but it does have pretty nice details and many would find it desirable on that basis.

    So this one's a mixed bag, with both negatives and positives.
     
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  8. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    So, why did you list this in the Error section? It is a variety, not an error.
     
  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Not everyone is hip to those subtler distinctions, y'know. 'Tis close enough.
     
  10. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    We're here to educate with the correct information, right?
     
  11. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    my guess would be the edge lettering, OP mentioned that there was some words overlapping on the edge lettering and he wasn't sure if it was an error or not.
     
  12. Aaron Greenwood

    Aaron Greenwood New Member

    How do I move it and what area would I move it to? I just thought that was an error. Wouldn't it be considered one? Or they meant to leave the 7. Idk I'm confused. Just let know know what to do and I'm sorry.
     
  13. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    No biggie, don't worry about it.
     
  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It was 1829 and they had a leftover unhardened 1827 obv die. Rather than waste an otherwise perfectly good die, they deliberately punched the 29 into the die over the 27 so they could use it. (The law required the coins to bear on them the date they were struck so legally they couldn't just the 1827 die as it was. Although they did sometimes do things like that.) So the overdate wasn't an "error" it was a deliberate choice made by the mint.
     
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  15. Aaron Greenwood

    Aaron Greenwood New Member

    Oh thank you for the cool information and the explanation! I think the information and back stories was one of the reasons why I started collecting in the first place. Very much appreciated and I'm sorry for misplacing my post.
     
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