I'm sure that someone elsewhere has already said this, but buy the coin, not the holder. With the decline in grading standards, even at the top tier TPGS, you need to base your purchases on the quality of the coin in front of you. Never discount the importance of eye appeal, either.
The Overton (die marriage) on your bust half is O-112. This gives it a rarity rating of R.3, meaning 201-500 examples estimated to exist today. So a bit on the scarcer side if you are interested in such things.
If you are set on a new 2020 Red Book you might as well wait and get the new 2021. I just pre-ordered a shipment but they don't ship until April. If you want to wait your local book stores should have them sometime mid to late April. And yes by all means PLEASE post pictures of that 1943 Copper Wheat Cent we would all love to see it.
@Tx_BoneCollector In addition to the Red Book purchase you might want to find a local coin club in your area. They're always looking for new members and there's a wealth of free advice at every meeting. Joe
I will post pictures tomorrow because I’m at work right now but I will say this it’s not magnetic and my dad got it as a kid so believe it or not I trust my dad more
That looks pretty good after comparing it with genuine examples on the internet. This one has a very similar die pairing to yours. Regardless of what you want to do with it, you need to get it professionally authenticated then insured and secured. This news article is why.
You should change the background to grey or black instead of the brown you are using. Rest your cell phone on something to stabilize it. This will also let you use the zoom function on your cell phone to get a closeup. Taking the photo is only part of the process. You need to use a photo editing app on your computer to crop out the background so you just see the coin. There are other options in these apps but just start with the 'crop' feature. Lastly, I can see your phone flash reflected on the coin image. Try to eliminate that by using other lighting. Keep trying different approaches and you'll get better at it.
Wow @Tx_BoneCollector ...... Last one of those that went to market made big news. I sure do hope that proves to be a genuine piece. And yes, before you do anything, that coin will have to be authenticated by one of the grading services. Understand too that this is one coin frequently faked by the Chinese. Not that I think yours is, but you will eliminate that question once it is slabbed.
If it is an expensive coin, do a little research first; looking at price guides, how to grade, ... If you are new to this then I'd be hesitant to spend a lot of money until you feel comfortable that you are paying a fair price for a legitimate coin.
Thanks guys it’s a very special coin to me just like my dads 1818 large cent, and I’m still trying to figure this new phone out and trying to get use to the camera functions
This is less popular opinion here, but I like the extra layers of protection that already NGC/PCGS graded coins provide. Especially I think this is true for new members. It doesn't have to been fancy, high-end, expensive graded coins. There are loads and loads of coins that are worth less than, and cost less than, twenty dollars. Still obviously collect what you like, and still realize there are even risks with buying graded coins (such as over grading, faked slabs), but you do eliminate many pitfalls being a new collector. There are just so many *more* landmines when buying raw coins until you have a few years of exposure. Consuming CoinTalk daily will definitely help you on the education front!
I am not sure if there are reputable dealers in your area, but perhaps you could get them to review the coin. If they think its genuine, have them submit it to PCGS on your behalf. It might cost you $30-$50, but that way you don't need to get your own submitters account and learn the ins-and-outs of submitting, insuring, shipping, etc. https://www.pcgs.com/dealers https://coin-dealer-directory.money.org/ Coins are a steep learning curve, most of it will come with time, but free advice from a dealer, and short-cutting the submission process, might take some stress/ mistakes out of the process for you until you get more comfortable.
If considered genuine by a nationally respected dealer, I bet PCGS and/or NGC would be more than happy for the chance to certify this for free as their name would be part of this famous rarity's provenance. Just given the potential, I'd take vacation time to get to a respected dealer anywhere in the country to further investigate this coin's authenticity. The coin in it's current status does no one any good - the owner or the hobby.
New Orleans Morgan Dollars are very affordable. You could get a few certified pieces and make yourself a grading set. You can see a lot of coins at shows to compare and hone your grading skills.
I think it depends on what you want out of your collection. If you're collecting just for the joy of it or just to own a piece of history, then I'd say find a set you find particularly interesting and start by trying to complete that. A lot of us have Dansco 7070 albums and work to complete those; they include a slot for every type of coin ever minted in the US. However, if you hope to one day profit from your collection, I think your best bet is to stick with graded coins (at least until you have learned to grade for yourself and are able to spot fakes). For the most part, silver or gold coins have held their value the best in the past, unless colonial copper is in your budget. But don't expect to turn a quick profit; it can be several years before you see prices rise. Most collectors I know tend to do a little of both. We'll buy certain coins because we believe they're likely to grow in value, but we'll also spend our money on a lot of coins because we just like them. We are collectors, after all.
Yes, probably true. I wonder OP, are there any large coins shows in your area, where PCGS or NGC will attend and do on-site grading? Where do you live? Also, I highly recommend you take extremely good photos of the coin, before you really allow anyone else to handle the coin. Just so you can document what it looks like, it's current state of preservation, so your specific coin could be ID if something were to happen, foul play, etc. Now, I dont want to get your hopes up. But let's say, there is a 1% chance your coin is authentic. Well, your going to want to do everything you can to keep it safe, document it. Act like its the real-deal, even if its an extreme long shot. Cell phone photos are not good enough. Camera photos shot with bad lighting, at weird angles, are not good enough. Small, low resolution photos are not good enough. I think you get my point. Obviously, it goes without saying: Dont attempt to clean it, or gussy it up in any way. I am saying it, since you are a new member, and maybe you havent heard that a million times yet. The goal is try and keep its current state of preservation exactly how it is now, no better, no worse. So be mindful of your handling as well. Good luck, keep us posted.