Strange countermark

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  1. Tejas

    Tejas Well-Known Member

    I have this coin below, which shows a strange countermark in the form of a bird's head (eagle head). The countermark is right on the head of the emperor. Does anybody know what this countermark indicates? Could this be the countermark of a legion?

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  3. Tejas

    Tejas Well-Known Member

    While I really hope to find out more about the strange eagle-head-countermark above, here are two coins from my collection, which show the famous VAR countermark.
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  4. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Yes, it's the legionary eagle's head countermark. I believe it was used to validate the value of the coin for use by the legion with a certain population or purpose.

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    Tiberius, Ruled 14-37 AD
    AE As, Celtiberian/Roman Hispania
    Calagurris Iulia Nassica (Calahorra, Logroño)
    Issued by C. Celer and C. Rectus (duoviri)
    Obverse: TI•CAESAR•DIVI•AVG•F•AVGVSTVS, Laureate head of Tiberius right; legionary Eagle Head countermark on head.
    Reverse: Bull standing right, M•C•I to left, C•CELERE above, C•RECTO below, II/VIR before.
    References: SNG Cop 587, RPC I 450
    Size: 28mm, 11.5g
    Ex: Ibercoin, Auction 25, #113 (1/30/19)


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    Tiberius, Ruled 14-37 AD
    AE As, Turiaso, Tarazona (Zaragoza)
    Issued by L Caecilius Aquinus and M Celsus Palud (duoviri)
    Obverse: TI CAESAR AVG F IMP PONT M, Laureate head of Tiberius right; legionary Eagle Head countermark on head.
    Reverse: Bull standing right, L•CAEC•AQVIN / MVN TVR (ligate) above, M•CEL•PALVD below, II/VIR before.
    References: SNG Cop 587, RPC I 419
    Size: 28mm, 9.7g


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    Tiberius, Ruled 14 – 37 AD,
    AE As, Turiaso Mint
    Mn. Sulp. Lucan and M. Semp. Front. as duoviri
    Obverse: TI CAESAR AVG F AVGVSTVS IMP laureate bust right, legionary Eagle Head countermark.
    Reverse: MVN TVRIASO MAN SVLP LVCAN M SEMP FRONT, II VIR within wreath.
    Reference: RPC 413


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    Augustus, Ruled 27 BC – 14 AD,
    AE As, Hispania, Turiaso Mint
    Obverse: IMP AVGVSTVS PATER PATRIEA, laureate bust right, legionary Eagle Head countermark.
    Reverse: L MARIO L NOVIO MVN TVRIASO, II VIR within wreath.
    Reference: RPC 411
     
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  5. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Nice countermarks. I wish I could chime in here with an eagle head, but I don't have one of them.

    Here is a whole eagle, standing, which I've never been able to attribute (the host coin is so awful it may stay a mystery forever):

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  6. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

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  7. Tejas

    Tejas Well-Known Member

    That is fantastic. Thanks a lot all for the information. If the underlying coin is from Spain maybe it is even possible to identify which legion countermarked these coins. Again, many thanks.
     
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