Was looking for another coin and ended up finding this one

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  1. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    Was looking for a different coin and I accidently stumbled onto this coin and bought it. Now I have another one, @rrdenarius this is addicting !

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    Carthago Nova
    Iberia, c. 237 - 206 B.C.
    Spain, Carthago Nova Æ Unit.
    Roman Occupation after 209 BC.
    Bare-head left
    (Scipio Africanus?)
    Horse standing right; palm tree
    behind.
    CNH Class XI, 282;
    SNG BM Spain 127-128; ACIP 609.


    Here is the one I had already.

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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Both are nice but I like the 2nd one with that desert patina. Beautiful coins!
     
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  4. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    Well the second one in the pics was right about $650 after all the fees in auction.
    The first one in the pics was right at $65 shipped.
     
  5. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    How big are they? What are their diameters?
     
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  6. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    $65 is looking better and better ;)
     
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  7. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Congrats, @bcuda! $65 is a superb price! What venue were you perusing and found this?

    Mine is just about 23mm...
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    Punic Iberia
    Roman Occupation, 209-206 BC
    AE Unit, Carthago Nova mint
    Obverse: Bare male head left.
    Reverse: Horse standing right; palm tree in background.
    References: CNH Class XI, 282; SNG BM Spain 127-128; ACIP 609
    Size: 22.8mm, 10.49g
    Ex: Forvm Ancient Coins
     
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  8. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    The one I won in auction is 10.30g, 23mm
     
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  9. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    An enigmatic issue. This is the only ancient coin I've bought on eBay. The OP's is much nicer than mine.

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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I believe it is

    SCIPIO in IBERIA

    Read his history, and about his personality: yeah, he would had quietly sanctioned coins made with his image... far from Rome, right after he skunked the Barcas, in their CAPITAL of Spain! Yeah, they are him... young, wipper-snapper, head full of hair, kinda anonymous, but his bold-style... first Roman on a coin. :)


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    Carthago Nova Scipio 209-206 BCE AE 14 Horse Head


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    Carthago Nova SCIPIO Africanus Roman Occupation 209-206 BCE Sear Vol2 6575 Left
     
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  11. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    @Alegandron I have seen a couple of coins with the horse head on the reverse is it the same size coin as the one with the horse and palm tree coin ?
     
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Seems Carthage put horse heads on the smaller fractionals. Horse and palm on larger flans that had more room. My issues above are 14 mm for the head, and approx 22 mm for the Horse and Palm... i feel Scipio picked up the Carthage dies and replaced Tanit, the Patron Goddess of Carthage, and removed her. Wow, I betcha the male head may had resembled him in his youth.
     
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