Can anyone identify this coin ?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Ben88, Feb 6, 2020.

  1. Ben88

    Ben88 Active Member

    Thank you for any information ...
     

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  3. Bradley Trotter

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  4. Hookman

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    Good work there Bradley !!
     
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  5. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    Welcome to Coin Talk. Did you try to research the coin? Google can be a friend when doing research. Although I don't collect this type, I found it on my 2nd attempt on Google. If no one tells you what it is by this time tomorrow, I'll give you the info. I'm not trying to be mean but trying to encourage a little research. Peace. :)
     
  6. thomas mozzillo

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    @Ben88 After reading your other posts it appears you're new at this. Sorry for your loss. Was this one of the coins left to you by your father?
    Here's some info: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces28744.html
    Very interesting translation of all those letters on both sides. :)
     
  7. Ben88

    Ben88 Active Member

    Good morning, @thomas mozzillo. Thank you for the additional information ! Yes, this is one of many hundreds of coins left by my father, many of which are in 2x2 holders and labeled, making research much easier. Many of the world coins are not labeled, and Google has helped tremendously. Not sure why I was having so much difficulty with this one. I really appreciate your reaching out, everyone I've heard from on this forum is very helpful !
     
  8. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty sure it's a forgery of a 1797 Kronentaler of Flanders!
     
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    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    What makes you think its a forgery?
     
  10. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    It's possible you're correct. Can you provide a link for that. The link I gave to the OP shows it to be a 1/2 Kronenthaler of Austrian Netherlands (Belgium). All the lettering that I can see on both sides matchup to the photo on Numista.com
    It could also be this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/352960662980
    I tried Numista.com and Google and can't find it under Flanders. The reverse lettering does mention that amongst under titles,Francis II was, "Count of Flanders".
    This is not in my area of collecting and everything I've written was from the little research that I have done. (And thoroughly enjoyed doing). It's a little confusing. Maybe someone who specializes in this can provide more accurate information. :)
     
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  11. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    Besides the link I provided you saying it's a 1/2 Kronenthaler, it could also be this, a 1 Kronenthaler: https://www.ebay.com/itm/352960662980
    I can't make out all the lettering on your coin so it's hard to tell which one
    you have.
    As @Bradley Trotter said, "Additional diagnostics such as size, weight, and diameter would be helpful in nailing down a denomination".
    You can see from both links that the coins (from what we can see) look almost exactly alike.
     
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  12. Ben88

    Ben88 Active Member

    The coin is rather large - 40 MM wide and 3 mm thick.
    I do not have a way to accurately determine the weight, but comparing it to USA coins, it's about the weight of a 1/2 dollar. Interestingly, I can make out the top of the letter M at the bottom of the obverse, but all the examples I see online do not mention M as a mint mark.
     
  13. PaulTudor

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    M stands for Milan and there is no crocione for 1797!Here's a few pieces of 1797 , different mints!In my opinion yours looks a bid dodgy, the legend and the bust! 4319_img_0076_c.jpg 4679_z4825.jpg 30221_w1290_g.jpg 181213042bz.jpg
     
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  14. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    You have the 1 Kronenthaler. The diameter for the 1 Kronenthaler is 39mm while the diameter for the 1/2 Kronenthaler is 35mm.
    @PaulTudor seems to know a lot about these. Maybe he can give you better information re your coin.
    This looks like your coin: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces77422.html
    KM# 62.2
     
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  15. Ben88

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  16. PaulTudor

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    Few of these kronentalers have a decent value , i think the 1799 M, 1800 M , 1822 V
    1818 V, but nothing special!
     
  17. Ben88

    Ben88 Active Member

    Well, at least I now have a nice history of that coin - and I'm learning a lot !
     
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