Gordian III, Antioch, Roma

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I haven't bought a Gordian silver for a few years. I saw this one and changed that.

    Gordian III, Antoninianus
    Obv:– IMP CAES M ANT GORDIANVS AVG, radiate draped bust right
    Rev:– ROMAE AETERNAE, Roma, helmeted and seated left on shield, holding Victory and spear
    Minted in Antioch
    Reference:- RIC 200

    Large flan, Slightly uneven strike evident on the reverse

    4.16 gms. 23.25 mm. 180 degrees

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    Share youe eastern Gordys....
     
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  3. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    I bought the sestertius of Gordian III recently at a Heritage auction pictured below. It was struck on a ragged blank but has a good looking portrait & image of Liberalitas (goddess of generosity) holding an abacus & cornucopia. Hey, for $99 including buyers premium I couldn't resist :rolleyes:.

    Gordian III, AD 238 - 244, Rome Mint, AE sestertius: 20.63 gm, 32 mm, 11 h. RIC IV.III 269a.

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  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Nice coins - the sestertius was a good deal! I usually see them going for $150-250 these days.
     
  5. JulesUK

    JulesUK Well-Known Member

    Such a handsome chap!

    GORDIAN III Antoninianus (241-243 AD) 22mm 5.4g Rome mint RIC 95
    Obv; IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, Bust of Gordian III, rad, dr, cuir, right
    Rev; VIRTVTI AVGVSTI. Hercules, nude, standing right, Rt hand on hip, left hand on club set in rock, lionskin next to club.

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  6. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    The celator had a good day at work making this one too.
    I should take a better photo of this one. Have been telling myself for years...

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  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Gordian III, A.D. 238-244

    AR Antoninianus, 24mm, 4.9 grams

    Rome mint, A.D. 241-243

    Obverse: IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG; Radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right

    Reverse: PM TRP III CIS II PP; Apollo seated left, holding laurel branch and leaning on lyre

    Reference: RIC IV 114

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  8. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Nice image!...he has that "deer with the head lice" look...wait, that's not right..."deer in the headlights" look?...nah, I'm sticking with head lice! :jawdrop::p:D
     
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  9. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    How to distinguish where it is minted Rome or Antioch - style or some details?
    Gordian III
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  10. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Differentiation is purely on style.
     
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  11. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    Nice coins!....
    Here's my Rome mint..With a naked Hercules about to play the clarinet!
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    Gordian III AR Antoninianus 23mm/4.28gr Toned..
    IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, radiate draped bust right / VIRTVTI AVGVSTI, Hercules standing right leaning on club set on stone and holding lion skin
    Rome mint: AD 241-243 (9th, 10th, and 11th Issues, 4th Officina) RIC 95, RSC 404
    .....The style of @svessien coin looks different is this an Eastern mint?
     
  12. Hermann Watzlawik

    Hermann Watzlawik Well-Known Member

    Hello, here my Gordian III. from Odessos, Thrace. I bought it in 1979 within a lot of
    6 bronce coins for DM 55.00

    Av: AVT KM below, ANTΩNINOC ΓOPΔIANOC draped bust of Gordian with laurel wreath and bust of the great God (Θεόs Mέγas) with Kalathos and cornucopia

    Rev:ΘΔHCCE(I)TΩ, Athena to the left, in right hand a Phiale, left hand on spear, beside her a shield, in filed to the left an E



    Pick u. Regling Bd.1 S. 576, No. 2348 plate V No.3 but only the obverse side
    Eckhel catalogue 72,11
    Mionnet, p.2, 360,942
     

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  13. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Struck at Berytus-Phoenicia, this coin has goddess of love Astarte in temple. BMC 238.
    GordAst O      BMC 238.JPG GordAstart R   Berytus.JPG
     
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  14. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    According to my Sear calatog, it’s struck in Rome. I would not be surprised if it was Antioch, though, as a variety of mine is Antioch mint according to Sear. On my coin, the die has been cut a bit deeper, making the relief higher. Most Gordian coins have the end of the nose and the lips smeared out. I’m not sure this is a question about where they are minted though. Both these are struck in Rome, for example, if we can trust Sear vol. III:

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    I believe this is first of all a question about the celator having a good day, and hot enough blanks for a full strike. However, I think this question is interesting enough to have a look in RSC, to see if these may be coins from another city than Rome.
     
  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    There are coins of which I am sure of the mint and others where I only believe I have identified correctly. I see my Roma as Rome mint.
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    Oriens and Fortuna are Eastern.
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  16. Severus Alexander

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    The later Antiochs like Doug's and mine are easy: the distinctive cuirass is diagnostic.

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    These were issued for Gordian's ill-fated invasion of Persia. Interestingly, their silver content is higher than for Rome issues.

    Earlier issues (like the OP) are tougher, I think. But if you look at a bunch of Antioch tetradrachms I think you can get a good feel for the style. Another source is Roger Bland's PhD thesis, available here, although the plates are not very high quality. As far as I know, it's the main piece of scholarship on Gordian III's eastern mints.
     
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  17. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Nices examples everyone

    Here's one I believe having been minted in Antioch

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    And just for the pleasure of showing it off, my huge (25 mm and 6,95 grams) Rome mint antoninianus

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    Q
     
  18. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    These are Rome mint examples, but I like 'em:

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    Gordian III, AD 238-244.
    Roman AR antoninianus, 3.62 g, 21.6 mm, 5 h.
    Rome mint, 2nd officina, 3rd emission, AD 241-243.
    Obv: IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: IOVI STATORI, Jupiter standing facing, head right, holding scepter and thunderbolt.
    Refs: RIC 84; Cohen 109; RCV 8615; Hunter 51.

    Gordian III VIRTVTI AVGVSTI Antoninianus.jpg
    Gordian III AD 238-244.
    Roman AR Antoninianus, 5.52 g, 23.2 mm, 2 h.
    Rome mint, 4th officina, 8th-11th emissions, AD 240-243.
    Obv: IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, radiate and draped bust, right
    Rev: VIRTVTI AVGVSTI, Hercules standing right, right hand on hip, left holding lion's skin and resting on club set on rock
    Refs: RIC 95; Cohen 404; RCV 8670; Hunter 71.

    Perhaps my favorite imperial issue of Gordian III:

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    Gordian III, AD 238-244.
    Roman Æ Sestertius, 20.01 gm, 28.2 mm, 11 h.
    Rome, 5th officina. 9th emission, AD 241.
    Obv: IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: PM TRP IIII COS II PP SC, Apollo seated left, holding laurel branch and resting left arm on lyre.
    Refs: RIC 302; Cohen 252; Sear --; Banti 72.

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    Gordian III, AD 238-244.
    Roman Æ sestertius, 24.30 gm, 28.7 mm, 12 h.
    Rome, AD 240.
    Obv: IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: LIBERTAS AVG SC, Libertas standing left, holding pileus and scepter.
    Refs: RIC 318a; Cohen 153; RCV 8717; Hunter 147.
     
  19. Bing

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  20. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    Not my finest Gordian III, but the only eastern one I have. As already stated above, coins showing Oriens were apparently only minted in Antioch. It also has the characteristic cuirass (lorica squamata).

    Rom – Gordian III, antoninian, Oriens.png
    Gordian III, Roman Empire, antoninianus, 242–244 AD, Antioch mint. Obv: IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG; bust of Gordian III, radiate, draped and cuirassed, r. Rev: ORIENS AVG; Sol standing l., raising r. hand and holding globe in l. 22mm, 4.35g. Ref: RIC IV Gordian III 213.
     
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  21. curtislclay

    curtislclay Well-Known Member

    Maridunum,

    Your coin seems to show Roma holding a spear pointing upwards rather than the usual scepter.

    Pictures are only photocopies, but I see only scepters on the eleven specimens of this type illustrated by R. Bland in his unpublished dissertation, pl. 17, 56/1-14.
     
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