What are these?

i have no idea what these are

 

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one more

maybe from rome

 

once again marc. please start your own topic for all coins you are curious about.
it will help the professionals find your posts better
-Shawn

 

im not sure how to do that. thanks

 

thanks for help. this is a great website for people like myself, that are new to collecting. should be fun!!

 

I'm by no means an expert in ancient coinage, but I'm pretty sure those are both Greek.

Almost positive about the second, as I believe the bust on the obverse is Athena.

 

Yes, both Greek. Both are cast fakes, as well.

I'll post attributions for them tommorow, when I get a chance.

 

I was hoping you'd show up. I had exhausted my knowledge of the subject.

 

The first is a modern cast fake imitating a silver stater from Selge in Pisidia, c. 300-190 BC.

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/sg/sg5471.html

 

The second is also a cast fake, it may be imitating a silver stater from Thurium, in Lucania in Sicily, c. 370 BC.

http://www.coinarchives.com/a/lotviewer.php?LotID=216445&AucID=302&Lot=44