Compare to PCGS

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by bruthajoe, Feb 1, 2020.

  1. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    Here is a 1956 Roosevelt dime designated MS68 full bands by PCGS. Link...https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1956-10c-fb/85112/68 (The PCGS "Full Bands" designation for Roosevelts requires that both the upper and lower pair of bands on the torch be distinct and show full separation. The line dividing the bands must be complete and unbroken).
    It appears to me on this coin the top band is broken. Browsing through PCGS, I've found lesser designations with what appeared to be better strike quality. What am I missing here?
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    In short I am trying to compare with this coin...(below) and am having trouble understanding which qualities the formentioned MS68 posses to earn that designation.

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  3. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    I don't trust the PCGS photos. I think they use stock photos that are not representative of the designation title.
     
  4. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I wouldn't call either one of these FB.
     
  5. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    They don't use stock photos
     
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  6. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    So this posting on their website is a true statement?

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  7. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    Are you guys saying they don't use photos of the actual coins?
     
  8. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    Maybe I'm thinking FSB.
     
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  9. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    That's what I was thinking. I'd like to see those coins they post in the actual slabs as well.
     
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  10. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Pictures don't always accurately show everything and series have their own unique aspects
     
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  11. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    Yes but shouldn't they?

    I jumped the gun. So the PCSG coin is a FB just no a FSB.

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  12. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

  13. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Impossible for pictures to be as accurate as in hand.

    Same thing different way of saying it.
     
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  14. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    I think I'm getting wrapped around the axle. I think I'm getting the Roosevelt's and Mercs mixed up.
     
  15. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    I think I'm just gunna go home now!

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  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You wanna get even more confused, go look at what NGC says for the same designation.

    As for questioning if a coin is worthy of the designation/s or not, (NGC and or PCGS), that's a game that'll drive ya nuts if you play it. While NGC is more strict with all the special designations than PCGS is, when it comes to assigning those designations, there are just as many coins in both companies slabs that are questionable of being worthy of the designation to begin with. And there's really no rhyme or reason to it !

    'Course that's why it'll drive ya nuts if you play that game of trying to figure it out.
     
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  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    That's what I have seen from the beginning of the services, showing it on the label.
    I think a lot of the time the grader got it right but the label was printer wrong.
    It's tough to image some of the designations in a way that others can see it.
    The coins that are just wrong just float around out there on the market. Few will mess with fixing the slab. Crazy stuff.
     
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  18. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I couldn't agree more. The same is true with full steps Jeffersons.
     
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  19. Dennis Misiak

    Dennis Misiak Member

    No way on the FB. That drives the price into the universe at the 68 level.
     
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  20. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    No but i'm getting the feeling it is inevitable.

    I expected this was going to be the case.
     
  21. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    IMO there is no way that coin should have gotten a FB notation. Based upon the photograph, the top band appears to have something on it, blocking the line from being a clear separation.
     
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