1829 Capped Bust 5C (Half-Dime) Variety?

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  1. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Howdy fellow coin peeps, :thumb:

    I recently acquired a nice little 1829 Capped Bust Half-Dime and although it's an ex-jewelry piece, it still has nice detail.

    I would appreciate help in identifying the variety since I don't have the books on these because I primarily collect older copper. :)

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    Ribbit :)
     
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  3. Bonedigger

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  4. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    nice i swa one for 66 graded 66 so i had to pass :)
     
  5. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Interesting thing has occurred. When removing the solder, the coin bubbled. :eek:

    Can you spell - COUNTERFEIT? :eek:

    I have a little Ronson Tech Torch butane soldering torch that I use to remove solder with and I've removed solder on several coins with no problems, until this one.

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    So beware peeps! There are some very convincing counterfeits and this one had me fooled completely! :headbang: Unfortunately, as a counterfeit, I ruined it but had I known it was a counterfeit, I wouldn't have attempted to remove the solder. :(

    Ribbit :)
     
  6. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    So it was plated , and that's why it bubbled , **** counterfieters :computer:
    was it cast or struck ?
    rzage:smile:hatch::hammer:
     
  7. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I don't know but I cannot find casting lines and the reeded edge even looks good. This was a good counterfeit but silver plated. I am waiting on a response from the seller before I attempt to examine it "deeper". ;)

    This has created an interesting dilemma - can I demand a refund for a counterfeit because in the process of removing non-disclosed solder off the coin, the coin bubbled and thus, is now ruined. :confused:

    Ribbit :)
     
  8. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'd say yes because he misreresented the coin , you thought it was a jewelery piece , tried to fix it only to find it wasn't what he had said , but worse it wasn't real . But I'm no lawyer .
    rzage
     
  9. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Actually, yes & no . . . or maybe, no & yes.

    No, I didn't think it was a ex-jewelry piece when I bought it cause it was photographed in the flip and I couldn't see the solder and the seller didn't disclose it but might not have known about it, since it wasn't very apparent unless you looked really close.

    Yes, I did think it was an ex-jewelry piece once it arrived and I saw the solder but I got it at a decent price and so removing the solder was more desireable than trying to get a refund.

    Ribbit :)

    Ps: BTW - the seller has offered a full refund but since I ruined the coin, I counter-offered to accept a half-refund. I think the seller had no idea it was a counterfeit, I didn't, and since I ruined it, I should accept some responsibility. I figured half was reasonable for both of us. The counterfeit should have fetched that amount, being sold as such, so I will feel better about this by doing it this way. :)
     
  10. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    What are the chances that a fake would end up as a piece of jewelery ? 1 in 100,000 ? That coin sure looked real .:eek:
    rzage
     
  11. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I've actually seen $1 gold pieces I thought were fake and they were ex-jewelry pieces and if you think about it, if the fake is done well, what better place to use them? :D Which makes me wonder if there are any known quality fakes that were made specifically for jewelry? Maybe Hobo can answer that one? :bow:

    Ribbit :)
     
  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    You gonna ask or should I ?
    rzage:smile:hatch::hammer:
     
  13. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    He'll find us, he always does. ;)

    Ribbit :)
     
  14. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Wow, thats something new there. I've never seen that before. and Yikes!
     
  15. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Hmmmmm. That's a good question. I can't think of one off the bat. I wouldn't doubt that some were made for that porpose. I'll look into that when I get some time.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The chances are pretty good actually and it is far from uncommon to discover fake coins in a jewelry setting. Why ? Because if someone is going to put a coin in jewelry setting they likely know very little about coins and would have no idea at all of how to tell if the coin is fake or not.
     
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