No mention of tooling in the auction listing. >:(

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Roman Collector, Jan 11, 2020.

  1. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    They really are some of the worst I’ve ever seen. Biddr should cancel whatever agreement they have.
     
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  3. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    In fairness, this is sculpting, not tooling ;)
     
  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Seems more like "graffiti" to me...?
     
  5. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

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  6. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Uhhhh....

    Is this a thing? Take a slick metal slug and crudely carve a portrait into it?

    At least TRY to make it look good. Hobo nickels are a great example.
     
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  7. Severus Alexander

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    I found a photo of the tooler:

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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I believe that whoever tooled these coins must have been of similar age and probably not as talented.
     
  9. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    I’m calling the Child Protection Services @Severus Alexander . Where are the protective goggles ?? The GOGGLES ??
     
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  10. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Not my toddler tooler! (Phew!)
     
  11. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Really? NGC "detailed" a coin because of a clip? They have no business sticking their uptight noses in medieval/ancient coins. I would tell them to go back and slab some more 69/70 ASEs to chisel some more tv rubes.

    If there was tooling I could see it, but not for a simple clip. Heck, some series is about impossible to find an unclipped specimen, and the clipping is just as important a historical fact as the coin in many circumstances. Tons of Sassanian coins were clipped officially to retariff them after the Arab conquest.
     
  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I disagree which means I agree with NGC (someone note the date and time:happy:). Clipping is the sort of thing that could be harder to see after a coin is encased so any sign of it needs to be labelled as a warning as to what to expect when someone cracks out the coin. I suppose they could add a word to suggest the clipping was slight or severe. One of the several reasons I do not like slabs is that I want to see what the last person saw before the coin was slabbed. I want to see edges.
     
  13. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    ...and it's happening again. Scrolling through the latest catalogue of the auction house the original post was referring to, I immediately spotted this wonderful example of modern expressionist sculpture:
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    A surprisingly large number of their Roman Imperial bronzes also have "sand patina" of an astonishingly uniform color and texture. Did someone maybe do an internship at Zurqieh?

    All in all, this really is vexing. They have some medieval coins that I would under other circumstances be very much interested in, but considering the amout of obvious shady stuff going on with this auction house, I'll avoid them like the plague.

    I'd assume I'm not the only one drawing this consequence. One can only wonder if they are aware that they are effectively and permanently hurting their business?
     
  14. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I would encourage our members to write to biddr to raise the issue of unmentioned extreme tooling: info@biddr.ch.
     
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  15. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

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