Sextus Pompey Denarius - My First After A Lucky (?) Bid

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  1. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    First off, Happy New Year's to you all. I hope you have a healthy & happy & coin-laden 2020.

    At the end of 2019 I chanced on something out of my usual bottom-feeding price range. eBay "buy it now" auctions cause me a lot of anxiety - if it is a good deal, you got to act fast. But if it's something I know nothing about - most things, that is - I run the risk of getting a fake. When I spotted this auction at $49.99 buy-it-now, I thought it was worth a look:

    "AUGUSTUS AR DENARIUS (27 BC - 14AD) GAIUS & LUCIUS CAESARS"

    I figured it would be fake, or really, really ugly. I don't have a Gaius & Lucius denarius, but they are abundant and there are fakes. The seller appeared to be reliable and had a lot of other coins, some ancients with robust buy-it-now prices. But this one was not Augustus - instead it was this:

    Sextus Pompey - Den Neptune Dec 2019 (0a).jpg

    I didn't know what it was, but I thought that portrait looked like Pompey, so I started frantically ransacking the Internet for information, and the Forgery Network for fakes. After a few frantic minutes, I pulled the trigger. Here is full attribution, as I understand it:

    Sextus Pompey Denarius
    (42-40 B.C.)
    Sicilian Mint

    MAG•PIVS•IMP•ITER• , head of Pompey Magnus r. between lituus and capis / Neptune left, holding aplustre, foot on prow, with Anapias & Amphinomus, parents on shoulders, [PRÆF] above, CLAS•ET•O[RÆ] / [M]ARIT•E[X• S•C•]
    (3.47 grams / 16 mm)
    Crawford 511/3a; Pompeia 27; Sydenham 1344; BMCRR (Sicily) 7; RSC 17 (Pompey the Great); Sear CRI 334.

    I think it's a genuine coin, but I am willing to be set straight. It has a lot of wear, but that portrait of Pompey sold me - banker's marks notwithstanding!

    Sextus Pompey - Den Neptune Dec 2019 (0det).jpg

    Show me your Sextus Pompeys or share your buy-it-now or end-of-year stories or whatever strikes your fancy.
     
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  3. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Looks authentic to me....from the photo.
    Well done!
     
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  4. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..me too....i hope it is for ole Mike...:)
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I see nothing to make be believe it is not authentic. Here is my only Sextus Pempey:
    Sextus Pempey 1a.jpg
    SEXTUS POMPEY; GENS POMPEIA
    AE As
    OBVERSE: MAGN above laureate janiform head with features of Pompey the Great
    REVERSE: PIVS above, IMP below, prow of galley right
    Sicilian 43-36 BC
    22.8g, 31mm
    Syd 1044a, Cr479/1, Pompeia 20v, Cohen 16
     
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  6. Carausius

    Carausius Brother, can you spare a sestertius?

    My Sextus Pompeys:

    4303550l.jpg 2951797.jpg Sextus Pompey Eppius As.png
     
  7. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Thank you all for your affirmations and for sharing those lovely Sextus Pompeys. I really need to get some more now - I have the fever!
     
  8. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Screaming deal on a very desirable coin and type I've been looking for myself for some time! BIG CONGRATS (looks legit to my amateur eyes as well)
    I finally bought my first coin with Pompey's faced on it this year as well.
    And it's timely bring the first of the new year
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    Sextus Pompey
    Ӕ As. Spain or Sicily, 45 BC. Laureate head of Janus, with the features of Cn. Pompeius Magnus; [MGN] above / Prow right; [PIVS] above, IMP below. Crawford 479/1; CPP I 671. 19.23g, 28mm,

    Fine.

    Ex-Savoca
     
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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Mine is a fourree ex Charles Wolfe 30 years ago. I had to convince him I knew what a fourree was before he would sell it. This was one of my earlier fourrees after the group I bought from the Grant Edwards collection in the late 80's.
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Congrats on the great find, @Marsyas Mike !

    Here’s an ancestor:

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    RR Sextus Pompeius 137 BCE AR Den She-Wolf Rom Rem S112 Cr 235-1a


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    RImp Sextus Pompey 42-38 BC AE As Janus Pompey Magnus - Prow Sear 1394 Craw 479-1
     
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  11. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Excellent acquisition

    My pompeians

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    Cnaeus Pompey Jr, Denarius
    Denarius minted in Corduba ? in 46-45 BC
    M [POBLICI LEG] PRO PR, Helmeted head of Rome right
    CN MAGNVS IMP, Spain standing right, presenting palm branch to a soldier (Pompey ?) standing left on a prow of galley
    3.65 gr
    Ref : HCRI # 48, RCV #1384, Cohen #1


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    Sextus Pompeius and Q. Nasidius, Denarius
    Mint moving with Sextus Pompeius, Sicily, 42-39 BC
    NEPTVNI, head of Pompey the great right, trident before head, dolphin below
    Q.NASIDIVS at exergue, galley sailing right, star in upper field
    3.92 gr
    Ref : HCRI # 235, RCV # 1390, Crawford # 483/2, Sydenham # 1350, Cohen # 20
    Ex Freeman & Sear, Ex Barry Feirstein collection (NAC auction # 42/279)
    Ex Roma Numismatics


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    Sextus Pompey, As
    As struck in Sicily c.43-36 BC
    Head of Janus with features of Pompey the Great, MAGN above
    Prow of galley right, PIVS IMP in field
    16.57 gr
    Ref : HCRI # 336, RCV #1394, Cohen #16

    Q
     
  12. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Yours is better than the one I have and I paid close to $300 for it. You must have done something to please the gods.
     
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  13. Limes

    Limes Well-Known Member

    Great win! The coins of sextus pompey are very desirable and expensive, you are lucky. I would like to post mine, but it was deemed a fake earlier this year. Major bummer.... But, i have a surprises which i can show somewhere next week, hopefully!

    @Carausius @Cucumbor, your coins are amazing!! Just, wow!
     
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  14. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Again, thank you so much for the kind words about an apparently pretty lucky bid. Wasting enormous amounts of time looking at eBay auctions sometimes pays off, but time wasted is time gone. Nothing like New Year's Day to provoke such pondering...

    Just to show the hazards of eBay Buy-it-Now auctions, here is a Julius Domna denarius I got a while back - it is a well-documented fake. So I came to find, too late. It's rather pretty though, in a fakey way.

    Julia Domna fake denarius 2017 (2).JPG
     
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  15. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    @Marsyas Mike - Congratulations on a proper attribution. Definitely NOT Augustus. Well played. ;)

    Mine is one of my favorite coins in my collection which I've shared before on CT. I call this type the Pompey Party Scene due to the festive reverse.

    Sextus Pompey 511-3a NAC 2016.jpg

    Provenance:

    Sternberg November 29-30, 1974 Lot 6
    Sotheby's February 19th, 1969 Lot 2 (200 GBP sold to Spink).
    Ars Classica Auction XIII June 27-29, 1928 Lot 982
     
  16. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Spectacular, Carthago
     
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  17. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Carthago, that is spectacular. So that's what all that missing detail on mine should look like :)!!!
     
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  18. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Yes, but think of it this way. Look at all the ancient Romans who handled that coin and think of all the places that coin was and all the things it purchased before being dropped and lost. That other coin just hasn't seen that much.
     
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  19. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Congrats on the score, Mike! That portrait is bold and unmistakable, despite the wear. Mine is similarly worn.

    RR - Sextus Pompey Catanaean brothers 2622.jpg
    SEXTUS POMPEY
    AR Denarius. 3.35g, 18.6mm. Sicilian mint (Katane?), circa 42-40 BC. Crawford 511/3a; RSC 17; HGC 2, 604 (R2). O: MAG PIVS IMP ITER, head of Pompey the Great between jug (capis) left [and lituus right]. R: PRAEF CLAS ET ORAE / MARIT EX S C, Neptune, nude but for chlamys in the back, standing left, right foot set on prow of ship; he holds aplustre in his outstretched right hand; Anapias and Amphinomus (the Catanaean brothers) flanking him, bearing their parents on their shoulders.

    My other S. Pompey...

    RR Sextus Pompey - Scylla.jpg
    SEXTUS POMPEY
    AR Denarius. 3.76g, 18.9mm. Sicily, 40-39 BC. Crawford 511/4; Sydenham 1348; Sear, Imperators 335. O: The Pharos of Messana surmounted by a statue of Neptune; in foreground, galley left adorned with legionary eagle, sceptre and trident; MAG PIVS IMP ITER around. R: Scylla left, wielding a rudder in both hands; PRÆF CLAS ET ORÆ MARIT EX SC around.
    Ex Andrew McCabe Collection, privately purchased from John Jencek, 2011
     
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  20. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I like both of those, zumbly. Wear of this sort is pretty much my favorite "look" - something about the evidence of use appeals to me. A few banker's marks makes it even better.
     
  21. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Mine too, appears to be a fouree (3.5 grams) but I purchased it knowing that as, although the coin has much wear, the image of Pompey is pretty good. Most of his coins seem to me to have been hurriedly struck and of poor quality. They are among the most commonly encountered banker marked denarii I have encountered and as the triumvirs closed in on Sextus Pompey I think they were turning out inferior coins because they had no choice to do otherwise. IMG_1257[3048]Pompey obv..jpg IMG_1258[3052]Pompey rev..jpg
     
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