The Tyrant Collection

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by panzerman, Dec 27, 2019.

  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I just stumbled on this, quite the amazing collection! It covers Ancients right thru to modern era. I heard it maybe the most valuable collection/ after the Pogue collection of US coinage (200 million) US$.
    There are some very sledom seen Medieval/ Renaissance/ Baroque coins, also fabulous ancients.
     
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  3. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Got a link?
     
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  4. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    Are you gonna buy some of these coins ? lol
     
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  5. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I've heard it is quite amazing. They keep showing selections from it at the Long Beach shows. I'd love to see it.
     
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  6. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

  7. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    He is not selling, but buying more for his/ her collection.;)
    John
     
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  8. panzerman

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  9. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    He has only one coin of Faustina I. :(
     
  10. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Faustina wasn't a tyrant?????
     
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  11. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...oh...i thought it was a tyrant that owned it...:smuggrin:
     
  12. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    well....we've got'em beat there eh RC?!?...:smuggrin: (i got 2)
     
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  13. Michael Stolt

    Michael Stolt Well-Known Member

    This is the famous "Clio's" collection in case you guys didn't know.
     
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  14. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    It is not Clio's collection although he has called Clio a "nemesis" before. It is indeed probably the most valuable privately held coin collection, in particular because of his non-ancient holdings (although his ancients are great but admittedly with some noticeable absences).

    The displays at the Long Beach show are well worth seeing; some of the nicest presentation I've ever seen for coins (he had the booth and cases custom-made).

    He has a few experts who have helped him with his collection so far and is actively acquiring pieces, building it quietly for the last ~20 years. I definitely don't see him ever selling, which is annoying because he's outbid me on a few coins I've wanted (although he's also bought some coins from me that were no longer essential for my collection so I suppose it all works out in the end).

    I've outbid him a few times on coins I badly wanted - he has vastly deeper pockets than me but because he's focused very broadly, he will tend to not overpay and does judiciously research prices. He is also a "true collector" in that he's not just buying absurdly expensive pieces: you'll see $500K coins right next to $100 ones.
     
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  15. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    I prefer the FlipBook(s) as to the website
     
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  16. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    1 word for this collection. WOW!!!! Literally took my breath away.
     
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  17. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Yes.....but he has Quintillus/ Julian of Pannonia/ Geta/ Priscus Attalus/ Glycerius/ Olycerius and a perfect Volusian:happy: Very impressive collection.
     
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  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I assume the antecedent of 'He' here is Clio. The Tyrant collection is filled with the finest condition coins but lacks coins that have a lot of interest value that are not available in MS+ grade. Clio has superb taste in coins whether they are supergrade or just the best available examples of types I would want in about Good. In most cases, I can see why he wanted a coin even if it was a $100 one. The Tyrant has a very weak collection in silver and bronze compared to all the magnificent gold. I would by a book detailing Clio's collection in an instant because so many of his coins (judging from what I have noted him bidding on) have something really interesting going for them not considering resale value.

    I do not know either of these people (at least to the best of my knowledge) but I believe that Clio has shown the level of knowledge that enables him to assemble a great museum level collection. I really do wish he participated here on Coin Talk because I would be interested in hearing what he had to say about why he bought certain coins. I would love to see Clio's top ten of 2019 list. I would be disappointed if they were all of interest based mainly on price or grade. Of the million or so types of ancient coins there are a few thousand interesting types that sell at most once in a generation. I suspect he owns in disproportionate number. I want to see them.
     
  19. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    I was referring to Tyrant but it occurs to me that I'm in part referring to coins in his collection which aren't visible online. I agree that the view on the website is very gold-heavy and skewed by condition but he's very willing to buy coins that aren't superb; it's a subset on display.

    This does surprise me, especially as it pertains to Syracuse, where Tyrant could very feasibly complete your Boehringer die set. Alas...

    I'll ask him when I see him in a few weeks; I'm curious too and I suspect the answer will be multi-faceted.
     
  20. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    He also only have a silver EID MAR, no gold. What a
    disappointment...
     
  21. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    Tyrants collection maybe "weak" in silver and bronze but gold is
    where the EXCITEMENT is when it comes time to "show off" a coin
    collection. While those of us here appreciate coins in all metals, the
    general public gets excited about GOLD. For instance, the "Eids of
    March" coin is very rare and extremely rare with nice centering. Place it next
    to a "common" Roman gold coin and the public OOHs and AAHs
    over the gold coin not realizing the "Eids" piece is super rare. The
    coin shows where Tyrants collection is displayed usually have only
    a handful of Ancient/Medieval collectors that would appreciate the
    above scenario. This forums version of "Tyrant", @panzerman,
    gladly and unselfishly shares his collection. Over the past year, I
    have seen dozens and dozens of GOLD coins from all centuries.
    Can't say I've seen any silver or bronze from him. Sure, I would like
    to see some nice silver and bronze pieces, but gold is where its
    at for the general viewing public. Just an after thought, Tyrant may
    not be ready to show his/her silver and bronze collections.
     
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