2006 North Dakota 25c - Retained Cud

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  1. FoundinTN

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  3. cpm9ball

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    It looks like any other die crack to me.

    Chris
     
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  4. thomas mozzillo

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  5. FoundinTN

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    When it goes rim to rim is it not a precud? I swear that's what I've read
     
  6. FoundinTN

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    This is the example..are they not the same?

    Die Errors:
    Retained Cud:
    Anvil Die
     

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  7. thomas mozzillo

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    I didn't say it was or wasn't a cud. I couldn't tell. Maybe it's your photo but the area looks like it's incuse. Like a defect in the planchet or something like that. If it's raised it would be called a cud or precud.
     
  8. FoundinTN

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    It is definitely raised...so after reading it over....if it is just a rim to rim crack...its a precud... if it is displaced then it is a retained cud?......I'm jus gonna start collecting pez dispensers
     
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  9. thomas mozzillo

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    I'm wording this all wrong so I had to edit a few times and still can't explain myself correctly. From what I understand a precud is a rim to rim die crack and is the beginning of a piece of the die falling completely off. After a few hundred (just a guess) more strikes the die crack would loosen the piece enough for it to detach itself from the die and become a cud. Anyways, last I heard, Pez dispensers can get as expensive as coins. lol :)
     
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  10. paddyman98

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    You can collect as many things as you want.
    When it comes to coins and finding errors or varieties you need a lot of patience. Imagine all I have gone through in the past 35 years collecting errors. You just started!
     
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  11. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Nothing wrong with Pez dispensers! I had several hundred that I collected during highschool. They are cheap and fun.
    Also, 1000% easier to find a Pez dispenser than an error coin.
    Your quarter has a nice little die crack but nothing more. Keep searching. Stuff is out there but it certainly isn't easy to find, just as @paddyman98 said.
     
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  12. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    At this point it is a nice die crack and a saver. Check cuds-on-coins to see if there is a match for this position. Weather or not it made it to cud stage is only a guess unless you find one there or an actual cud in this position has even been found yet. It's possible this die was taken out of production before it reached cud stage. One can only assume if this was found in an inspection that it would have been replaced knowing the next stage would have been a major problem.
     
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  13. trussell

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    Maybe a cud in the bison?
     
  14. furryfrog02

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    A cud must come from the rim and go in towards the design. Otherwise, it is a die chip. That being said, I don't see any die chips on the bison.
     
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  15. cpm9ball

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    My thinking, too! The next thing you know, somebody will be calling a "Blank Planchet" a "Pre-Coin"!

    Chris
     
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  16. tommyc03

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    Cuds occur on the edge or rim of the coin. Chips or internal die breaks are different and occur within the coin. Edit-you both posted the same time as I did, sorry for the overlap.
     
  17. trussell

    trussell Active Member

    I was thinking cud liker a cow chews??
     
  18. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Yes, or changing a finished coin a "Post Coin".;):confused:
     
  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not a cud but it is a nice die crack. A cud is like this:
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  20. FoundinTN

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    Havent found 1 of those in a while,I lost 1 in my room somewhere...its eating me alive trying to find it
     
  21. Collecting Nut

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    You'll find it one day. I've known people that have lost a coin in their home and a year or two later they find it. I'm sure you will locate it in the future. :)
     
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