Silver Tet ID

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  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    The obverse of this Greek silver Tet reads SEBASTOS in Greek. Reverse has standing eagle. I can't read the name of the Emperor on the obverse. Please help me ID this coin before I buy it, at a very affordable price . Thank you.

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  3. Xodus

    Xodus Well-Known Member

    This one doesn't look right to me. the wear on it suggests it may be a modern, but I'd like to hear others' opinions.
     
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  4. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    There are fakes of this type both ancient and modern. Mine is a fourree, has a later style portrait and as hard to ID as yours.
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    These were issued for several years with Nero aging during the period. The one below is younger (his year 7 and 109 Caesarean) and has the legends you might match up with your visible letter bottoms. Your coin is years 8 and 110 (H and IP).
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    I can't see buying a coin from a terrible photo from a seller who can't ID it and would not know ancient from modern. Perhaps someone will research this and find it is bad but it is not possible to prove a coin is genuine from a photo even a photo better than that one.
     
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  6. Lolli

    Lolli Active Member

    Not possible to tell for sure if authentic from this small resolution pictures but looks pretty convincing so rather authentic than fake

    SELEUCIS and PIERIA, Antioch. Nero.
    AD 54-68. AR Tetradrachm (26mm, 14.35 g, 12h). Dated RY 8 and year 110 of the Caesarian Era (AD 61/2). Laureate bust right, wearing aegis / Eagle standing left on thunderbolt, with wings spread; palm frond to left, H/IP (dates) to right. McAlee 258; Prieur 82; RPC I 4182.

    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=354107

    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=375603

    You can search for "Nero tetradrachm Prieur 82" in acsearch or cng research sold coins and you will find many of these

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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I purchased a fake of this coin a few years back. It was pretty convincing. Of course, I got my money back. Nero 7.jpg
     
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  8. Lolli

    Lolli Active Member

    @ Bing your coin looks cast in pictures and there are twins one even with better details so it is clear that yours must be cast and can not be the authentic mother. The left one could be authentic mother, sharpest and best details and the area where the planchet ends and the edge starts is not so rounded (so rounded planchet at edge can be often found on bad cast fakes)
    Your has new scratches applied to distract and let it differ from mother and other twins that it is not too obvious that they are actually identical and artificial wear was applied to hide casting problems and with artificial toning, such manipulations can be found often on fakes and are alarm signals.
    The casting twins are from here
    https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=296552


    But that cast fakes of Nero tetradrachms exist like from most popular ancient coin emissions is not affecting the authenticity of the coin from first post. I do not see any obvious problems with the coin from the first post but a reliable authentication is not possible based on pictures


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    Last edited: Dec 22, 2019
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  9. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I don't know how to express my thanks to all of your good selves, for your kind assistance and interest which are much more precious to me than a lot of genuine valuable coins. Cheers and Happy Holidays.
     
  10. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    7Calbrey, Xodus is right to suspect a possible modern forgery on your Nero tet :shifty:. Better photos & the coins weight would be helpful. If genuine the coin would by listed by McAlee as #258, a very common coin. I sold an example of McAlee #258 pictured below at a Heritage auction 7 years ago for $805.00, including buyers fee.

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  11. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

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