Antiochos VIII—Son of Cleopatra Thea

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  1. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    I thought the artist’s conception of Cleopatra would be an interesting one to use even though it’s a different Cleopatra than the one mentioned in the layout.

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    This will definitely be my last coin of 2019. Maybe o_O

     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Nice looking coin, @Deacon Ray , and a great addition to your Seleucid collection!

    This one came from the Henry Clay Lindgren collection, which he sold off in a series of buy-or-bid sales some 15 to 20 years ago. I like it because of the write-up about it in the Celator:

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    Cleopatra Thea, Queen of Syria, with son Antiochus VIII.
    AR tetradrachm; 15.85 gm, 27 mm.
    Antioch mint, 125-121 BC.
    Obv: Jugate busts, right.
    Rev: ΒΑΣΙΛΙΣΣΗΣ ΚΛΕΟΠΑΤΡΑΣ ΚΑΙ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ, Zeus Nikephoros seated l., holding lotus-tipped scepter; IE outer left, A under throne.
    Refs: SNG Spaer 2437; c.f. Sear 7135.
    Notes: Ex-Henry Clay Lindgren. Obverse die match to an example sold in Baldwin's, Dmitry Markov and M&M Numismatics New York Sale IX, January 13, 2005.

    Here's the write-up about the sale in The Celator:

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  4. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Yes, that’s a classic. I’ll be keeping a lookout for one like it in 2020 ;)
     
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  5. David@PCC

    David@PCC Well-Known Member

    She was an interesting character to say the least and married to 3 different kings.
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    Cleopatra/Antiochos VIII
    Mint: Antioch
    123 BC
    Obvs: No inscription. Antiochos radiate head right, within dotted border.
    Revs: BAΣΙΛΙΣΣHΣ KΛEoΠATPAΣ KAI BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY, Owl standing on prostrate amphora. Star in ex
    19mm, 5.7g
    Ref: SNG Isr. 2445, SC 2263.2h

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    Antiochos VIII
    Mint: Antioch
    97 BC
    Obvs: Head of Antiochos right radiate within dotted border.
    Revs: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY EΠIΦANOYΣ, Two cornucopias. PE* to left.
    20mm, 8.8g
    Ref: SNG Isr 2560, SC 2312.1a
     
  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    @Deacon Ray that picture in your original post reminded me of this:
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  7. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

    That is a very nice coin @Deacon Ray with a great looking obverse. You are building a great collection of Seleucid bronze coins.
     
  8. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi All,

    Here's an AE portrait issue:

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    Size: 21mm
    Weight: 9.2 g
    OBV: Jugate busts facing right: Cleopatra Thea, veiled, diademmed and wearing stephane, and Antiochus VIII, diademmed. Dotted border.
    REV: Nike standing, facing left holding wreath. Legend in four lines: ΒΑΣΙΛΙΣΣΗΣ ΚΛΕΟΠΑΤΡΑΣ ΘΕΑΣ ΚΑΙ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ. Plain border.
    Mint: Uncertain Mint 115: Probably Northern Syria. An example of this type is known to have been overstruck by Tigranes II, whose overstrikes are mostly over issues of Damascus. Usual commercial sources are: Lebanon & Jerusalem.

    References: Lorber & Houghton: SC-2265 = CSE-0596; SNG Israel-2467-2469; Sear: S-7138; Babelon 1365; BMC 01, 8. This coin bought from Author Houghton Jan 2008.

    - Broucheion​
     
  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Lol, that movie came out when I was in University... I was in a frat for a year or so. And, yeah, we were truly Animal House. It is why I left the fraternity... started ruining my college career, but some ridiculous fun for a while.
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