New Image with Cell Phone Camera

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Bing, Dec 16, 2019.

  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    A couple of weeks ago, I included an image of a coin in a thread. I thought to myself that image was horrible, so today I decided to take a new image. It turned out well in my opinion.

    Old image:
    L CALPURNIUS PISO.jpg

    New Image:
    L CALPURNIUS PISO.png
    L CALPURNIUS PISO CAESONINUS & Q SERVILIUS CAEPIO ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS CALPURNIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Head of Saturn facing right, harpa and legend PISO behind, CAEPIO and symbol below, Q below chin
    REVERSE: AD FRV EMV EX SC, the two quaestors seated left between 2 grain ears
    Struck at Rome 100 BC
    3.6g, 20mm
    Crawford 330/1a; Syd 6031

    I don't much care for the color of either, so I may just take another in different light.

    What is your opinion?
     
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I like the newer picture. Seems clearer and has more contrast. The color looks like it may be a bit washed out though. What is the actual color of the coin?
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    It's a bit more silver in color, but not bright like a coin over-cleaned.
     
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  5. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    I like it, all my pics are taken with cellphone. I sit it on a glass cup and zoom in, getting every detail, like yours. My most recent is this...
    Dealer pic.
    863125.jpg
    My Oppo Reno Z.
    Eryx.jpg
    Showing the true tonining of the coin.
     
  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Wow, Bing! That is so much better!!
     
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  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I also use my cell phone for pics. They tend to be more "realistic" than dealer photos.
     
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  8. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    The second is much better, both in clarity and color. I have found that I can get pretty credible images with a cell phone camera by using natural daylight giving me a higher shutter speed and thus less fuzziness from camera shake. Also I place the camera on top of three or four books with the camera projecting over the coin at a height of about five or six inches and pressing down a bit on the camera as I push the button. This tends to hold the camera still as the image is taken and produces usable images for Coin Talk purposes. My avatar image was taken in this manner.
     
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  9. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Nice coin, @Bing ! The details appear a lot sharper in the New Image. The portrait of Saturn is very appropriate for the Eve of the Saturnalia :singing: Too bad I don’t know any Saturnalia carols to sing :hilarious:
     
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  10. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Gaudeamus Igitur would be very apprppriate.
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    All photos require a setting for 'color balance'. Our eye-brain unions do all this automatically but cameras have to define 'white'. Some have very good routines that do almost as well as can be expected. Some do not. Some people set their cameras to one balance manually and then us the wrong color light. The old photo is waaaay too blue as if the camera were set to expect 'indoor' tungsten light bulbs but was used in daylight. The second is believable to me but you say it is wrong. I have not seen the coin. All that really matters is that the camera is set (automatically or manually) for the same mixture of colors that make 'white' as the light is that falls on the coin when the photo is taken. With nonadjustable cameras, you are at the mercy of the settings they gave you. I am not going to learn how all phones and cameras work but reshooting until you luck out and they match is one way to do it. Often, these cameras work best in daylight but not bright sun so you might have better luck in indirect sunlight near a window with no artificial lights on in the room.
     
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  12. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Thank you, @kevin McGonigal ! What a beautiful anthem :singing: I only knew the tune as part of Brahm’s Academic Symphony.
     
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  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That's how I took this second image. Indirect sunlight on my covered patio (lanai here in Florida). I'll try again tomorrow to see if I can match the coin.
     
  14. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    New images are much much better, IMHO. I’ve never been able to take a decent pic with my phone’s camera. Those are great.
     
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