Trying to help a member in a FB group. They submitted some coins and got an email. What would be special about the coin that they would do this? Thanks.
View attachment 1027985 Trying to help a member in a FB group. They submitted some coins and got an email. What would be special about the coin that they would do this? Thanks.
I got this before on a thai coin that I had submitted and I'm glad. The coin had pvc I believe and NGC took care of it and it slabbed fine. They are just giving you a heads up that the coin could benefit from conservation and that it could possibly help the grade. You can always decline.
It's called CYA. NGC is notifying the customer about a possible problem. However, if the customer declines to have conservation performed, the warranty would not cover it in the future should the customer complain. Chris
@Mkman123 @cpm9ball the coin in question is 1953 struck on a thick planchet. 3.3g. I don't know if this is a factor or not. I trust your expertise
It could be a factor if conservation is intended to improve the appearance of a valuable coin. Only NCS can answer this. Perhaps he should call their 800 number. Chris
OP, what CPM mentioned is what you should do. Call NGC customer service, they have great customer service and your friend can ask them.
I have never dealt with TPG before so can't speak to your friends email, but find it odd that NCS would solicit to conserve a submission. Does your friend have photos of the coins in question? It would help to post them here if they do. I for one would not like to have a problem coin encapsulated if it would only get worse.
@cpm9ball @Mkman123 @Mountain Man he actually did call them. No photo to share because it was submitted. The top part it's what they told him. Thank you for help
I've gotten this message before from NGC. It's happened because they've spotted something that may eventually cause damage (like PVC residue) or lower the grade (like dirt). In some cases, it's toning (like "copper spots" on gold) that lowers eye appeal. I and others I know have followed through and have always been pleased with the results. To me it's a no-brainer to answer yes to such emails. And no, I don't think they are doing this just to add to their revenue stream. Cal
One word of warning, although they are good at what they do, sometimes the coin WILL come back looking worse, and if it does there is no recourse. Some people think that if they have it conserved then it is a lock for an upgrade. That is not true either, and it is possible fr a coin that would have straight graded before conservation to become a details coin afterward. There are no guarantees, and doing it can be a gamble.
I've had great experiences with NCS whenever they have sent an email recommending it. I said yes, even on a couple coins that the potential for a grade bump would not have improved the value by $25. I chose to do it anyways because I figured I am the steward of the coin and as such, had a responsibility to preserve it as best as I could for future generations. I've always been pleased with the results.
Does pcgs for that with the pvc residue? I just had a nice Morgan come bag in a body bag because I missed some residue. I didn’t know they wouldn’t grade it. No offer for conservation though either.
Yes, PCGS has a conservation service ... for an extra fee. No guarantee of success. PVC residue can be removed with acetone or tetrahydrofuran. If the residue has damaged the coin past a certain point, it may not straight-grade or be body-bagged even if the residue is removed. In addition if you ask for Gold Shield Service or TrueView pictures, the coin will probably pass through the "sniffer". The "sniffer" is an analytical device that detects residues on coins. It can pick-up residues that a grader may miss. Cal
