who thinks this is ms65

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  1. 9roswell

    9roswell Senior Member

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  3. Bluesmanmoney

    Bluesmanmoney New Member

    Hey 9roswell,
    I looked at the coin and its not in my opinion. Not enough detail in the hair for one. The reverse is a better grade than the obverse of the coin. Hadn't seen this certifaction service before either. I have bought several coins from this dealer, but don't agree on this one.
    Best of the day to all!
     
  4. Bluesmanmoney

    Bluesmanmoney New Member

    I wanted to add that the toning is quite suspect on this coin also.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    XF 40 at best :(
     
  6. MorganFred

    MorganFred New Member

    I concur, presuming it hasn't been cleaned in which instance it might net grade at VF-20. Given that it's NNC (same league as SGS, FGS, PGS, and others offered by self-certifying sellers), it's almost certainly a problem coin and grossly over-graded.
     
  7. cmbdii

    cmbdii New Member

    I have morgans that look better than that, and all of mine are circulated hand me downs.
     
  8. zeke5

    zeke5 Member

    Definitely graded too high.
     
  9. Ed Zak

    Ed Zak New Member

    Where did this new grading company come from? Out of no where I just started seeing this service appear on ebay. Many sellers are suspicous with "private" feedback ratings and even their buyers are kept "private"...hmmmmmmmm.

    At least it is NOT one dominate seller (Aboncom) that is selling all of them (i.e., SGS graded coins).
     
  10. Steve E

    Steve E New Member

    To me it looks like someone's using blank Amos Advantage slabs and making up their own companies. Again I emphasis the sloppy label uncharacteristic of a professional grading service. I noticed they only show the reverse of the coin and not the entire slab. probably because they don't want you to see the embossed "CoinWorld" that is on the reverse of the Amos slabs.

    Maybe I'm totally off on this but it just looks way too suspicious to me.
     
  11. owenm08

    owenm08 New Member

  12. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Well, the description is closer to the coin than some I have seen from this Power Smeller! :rolleyes:
     
  13. crystalk64

    crystalk64 Knight of the Coin Table

    If this is MS65 I have some swamp land that would make a great investment also!
     
  14. MorganFred

    MorganFred New Member

    I've been seeing quite a few NNC for several months. There seems to be a recent proliferation of these new "certification" companies.Most I've seen "certified" MS-66 to MS-68 to -70 won't even pass as sliders; some are outrageous, e.g. labelling a VF coin as MS-65. Just another gimmick to trap the unknowing and unwary buyer.

    Some of the others with impressive-sounding, but deceptive initials: CRC (Certified Rare Coins), PGS (there are three PGS's, but I'm only familiar with Patriot Grading Service which labelled a coin which didn't even exist (MS-66 1958-S quarter instead of 1958-D [XF at best, BTW), NGS (Numistmatic Grading Service), FRG, the aforementioned SGS and a host of other wannabees. None are worth the match to melt their plastic.
     
  15. SilverDollarMan

    SilverDollarMan Collecting Fool

    alot of these "flEbay sellers, r putting their own grading labels on coins. Joe's coin Shop is JCSG. :D
     
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