What kind of error is this?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by nkklon, Feb 28, 2005.

  1. nkklon

    nkklon New Member

    I'm new to all this. Was wondering what kind of error this is. Its on a 1981 quarter ( sorry for quality, taken on my camera phone ).

    Also is it worth much?
     

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  3. Metalman

    Metalman New Member

    Welcome nkklon

    Im afraid I wont be able to form an opinion based on that photo,,

    If you cannot use a diffrent type of camera, please give a very detailed description, perhaps we can develope an opinion based on that.

    Rick
     
  4. nkklon

    nkklon New Member

    Hmm, yea I'll try to take a picture tomorrow in better light. But it has a indentation in the tail side of it - totally missing. It has the same curvature as the quarter, which makes me want to say there was another quarter under it when it was being struck. Looking from the edge the indent starts where the color shifts.
     
  5. survivor

    survivor New Member

    has blank side

    whats on the other side
     
  6. nkklon

    nkklon New Member

    the normal face of a quarter
    Edit - Here is a somewhat better picture. I'll try to borrow a friends digital camera sometime today. As you can see in the picture there is an indentation that seems to be completly blank.
     

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  7. bobbycoin

    bobbycoin New Member

    Nice Quarter. Im a newb so this may be way off, but I will try.

    Is the edge where it is blank seem to taper to the edge? in other words is the edge thinner at that point?

    I have a few coins that look like this that were the result of coins stacked on the tracks + 1 frieght train. An unexpected result, but it happened.

    I guess my point is this could be a result of something smashing the coin.

    -Bobby
     
  8. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Picture still leaves something to be desired but from what I see it is a genuine error. It is a coin that has been struck with a second planchet partially overlapping it. The coin in the picture was the one in the coining chamber with the obverse die as the anvil die and the revrese die as the hammer die. When it was stuck the blank was inprssed into the coin leaving the depression in it and the rest of the coin was actually struck up by the die. The coin is still round because it was restrained in the collar. If it had been done after striking part of the design would probably still be visible in the "dent", and most likely the coin would no longer be round.
     
  9. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    1981 is far too early for an inverted die setup. The mint didn't start toying with obverse die as anvil die until 1992. This coin could have been indented by an elliptical clip planchet that landed against one side of the collar. However, without a clearer picture of BOTH faces, one cannot rule out a fake.
     
  10. nkklon

    nkklon New Member

    Yea, I'm trying to get ahold of a digital camera. All my friends are out of town for spring break. But here is a POS camera phone pic of the front face.

    [EDIT] Note to self - Pay the extra 80$ for the 1.4mega pixel camera phone....
     

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  11. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    Both photos are still too fuzzy to be sure of anything. On the left side, does the obverse show any warping or distortion? Is the rim/edge junction prolonged into a thin, vertical flange (a "fin")?
     
  12. nkklon

    nkklon New Member

    The the dent is thinner, it goes in till the color changes, as if there was never any metal there to begin with.The rim is the same thickness except for the metal missing like i described. And yes it is a bit warped, like a little inwards where "In god we trust" is when looking at it from the side, but i'm pretty sure that is from years..
     
  13. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    What do you mean by a "color change"? Any warping is not a good sign.
     
  14. nkklon

    nkklon New Member

    Like when you look at the quarter on its side.. there is a color change along the ridge from silver to a copper color.. the silver part is not there
     
  15. guy

    guy New Member

    Thats just the bottom layer of copper. All quaters have it from 1965-present
     
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