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Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ozarktravler, Jun 14, 2008.

  1. ozarktravler

    ozarktravler Senior Member

    The coin obverse is ok, the reverse is goofed up. Do you have any idea what could have caused this error? :eek: thanks, ozark
     

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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Chinese counterfeit. An identical one was posted here a couple of months ago.
     
  4. ozarktravler

    ozarktravler Senior Member

    This coin from my...

    This coin is in my private collection,to my knowledge this coin has not been posted . it captures a nice die doubling. this could help us identify the process of manufacture. thank you
     
  5. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I did not say your coin had been posted before. I said "an identical one" was recently posted here. Your fake was made using the same reverse die as the other fake.
     
  6. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Looks just like all the 1840/1846 counterfeits I've been seeing all over Europe.

    Ribbit :)

    Ps: I just did a search and looked for any with doubling and none had it, so it could be a rare counterfeit and collectable but if anyone would know, it should be Hobo. :thumb:
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    ozark:
    Hobo is correct, we had an identical thread, with the identical reverse 'error' some months ago.

    And, the verdict was: The Chinese do nice work.
     
  8. ozarktravler

    ozarktravler Senior Member

    Was double die effect caused by casting? Was it caused by die strike? If I can get to my camera I will take a good close-up that might help us learn method of manufacture. I have seen hundreds of trade dollars, have only found one speciman with die doubling. trade dollars are among the top 10 fakes flooding the market, if we can learn the process used we might be of more help to visitors coming to the forum asking for help.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not so long ago, back in April I believe, there was a discussion about how sophisticated the Chinese counterfeiting had become with quite a few pictures of the operations. This is just one that will give you some idea -
     

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  10. ozarktravler

    ozarktravler Senior Member

    GD,
    Thanks for posting...thats scary... Where did they confiscate/discover those die hubs? Can you imagine what havock if silver/gold/copper planchets were used for striking. Maybe the US mint should contract labor to a third world country, ship the planchets over-seas. If they had the equipment and autorized to use real dies, the US mint would be out of business. If these foriegn lay-man can create a hubbed die and make a coin so authentic looking, just think what they could do with a cameo proof, maybe a re-strike of rare coinage. :) Thanks again for posting. Regards, Ozark
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Those dies were not confiscated, they are merely 1 pic of a counterfeiter in actual operation.
    Here is some product -
     

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  12. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    That flooring (look @ pic) looks like the flooring you have in your basement, Doug. :eek:

    Ribbit :D
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Flooring ? I don't see any flooring. For that matter don't have a basement either :D I've lived in the same apartment for over 21 years.
     
  14. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    The pink tile, but it was a joke and you knew it. :p

    Ribbit :D

    Ps: Pink is so you! :thumb:
     
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