Why isn't "Machine Doubling" Considered an Error?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by JCro57, Oct 28, 2019.

  1. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    NICKELS have smooth edges. So do blanks and planchets used for nickels so what! As to the upturned rims, the piece was probably a type 2 blank (planchet).

    Here is the problem that needs to be corrected. For decades, "planchet" and "blank" even "blank planchet" were terms that were tossed around by all of us who should have known better. This still goes on to a limited degree - habit. To my limited knowledge, this label should have said "cent planchet" but everyone who is knowledgeable knows what it is. ;)

    May I please have some more by the time I return.
     
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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    JCro57, posted:
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    This got slabbed as a "40% split layer obverse" by PCGS. Clearly, this was a clamshell that someone took a sharp tool to pry off, but the layer broke off. You can see the scratch marks all over. At 2 o'clock, you can see where the tool likely first went in, then makes its way to the center of the planchet. You also see bending and raised metal along the vertical line - evidence that it was bent with force. I feel strongly someone wanted this to detach as a whole piece because a fully separated obverse layer, and the remaining planchet now missing the obverse layer, are worth more than a clamshell usually.

    This should have been rejected or slabbed as damaged and was an attempted enhancement and was damaged after the fact.

    I will sit back and wait to be insulted...again...

    News flash...Asking someone to back up a claim IS NOT AN INSULT. Your first example was NOT a TPGS mistake as you claimed. The latest ones are. I agree 100% with your opinion of this coin. Due to what we see, the missing clad has PRBABLY been pried off. :D

    PS I'm not the enemy. This can be a very deceptive alteration. Not one I should miss either. :D
     
  4. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Asking me to back something up is not what was insulting. Maybe tone is lost, but you came across that I am somehow lying or ignorant in that I have many mislabeled and misattributed slabs when I likely don't. I get it. There are many liars on this forum. But I figured you knew me a little better than you do in that I am a good soul who is a good ambassador for the hobby.

    As for some of the wrong labels, some I had corrected, some I purposely don't want corrected; they make good educational pieces. I also trade them with others who have their own. I know what's in them, so I really don't care what the label says. Should I ever sell them, I will have them corrected.

    Honestly, I am done posting these on this thread. I tried to make my point and think I did a decent job backing things up.

    Dittohead in aeternum,

    ~Joe C.
     
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  5. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I have no idea who you are. I am an equal opportunity BS exposer and expect others to watch what I post as well. Lot's of folks play "Big Shot" on coin forums. You have proven to me that you are not one of them. If you come to the FUN show, I'd like to meet.
     
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  6. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    I obviously made a mistake in that Half dollar description.

    Send it in to PCGS for a corrected label.

    Sorry

    Fred
     
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  7. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Nothing to be sorry about, Fred. I wish I had 10% of your knowledge and experience.
     
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  10. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Well, keep in mind, I also have no idea when certain terms started being used. I also might not even be correct. These are my opinions, of course, and we know what those are worth ;)
     
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